WEBVTT 00:01.540 --> 00:01.810 PROFESSOR ROBERT SHILLER: All right. 00:01.810 --> 00:07.640 This is the concluding lecture for ''Financial Markets.'' And 00:07.640 --> 00:11.150 in this lecture, I want -- 00:11.150 --> 00:14.220 oh, I titled this lecture, Finding Your Purpose in a 00:14.220 --> 00:18.030 World of Financial Capitalism -- 00:18.030 --> 00:21.960 but I just want to give a lot of summary thoughts about the 00:21.960 --> 00:27.980 course and about your place in the world of 00:27.980 --> 00:29.230 business and finance. 00:31.780 --> 00:33.410 So, we had two -- 00:33.410 --> 00:36.430 well, the major textbook for this course was by Fabozzi et 00:36.430 --> 00:42.800 al., and it gave you a lot of detailed information about 00:42.800 --> 00:45.890 financial markets and institutions. 00:45.890 --> 00:49.050 Did you like it? 00:49.050 --> 00:52.140 I'm getting approval, I guess. 00:52.140 --> 00:54.780 I put you through something, because I thought you have to 00:54.780 --> 00:56.450 know that material. 00:56.450 --> 00:59.250 Finance is like a language. 00:59.250 --> 01:00.350 Well, it is a language. 01:00.350 --> 01:03.590 There's a lot of jargon, and behind the jargon are 01:03.590 --> 01:13.560 concepts, and I wanted you to immerse yourself in that. 01:13.560 --> 01:20.240 I also assigned my manuscripts for my new book, which is 01:20.240 --> 01:25.700 tentatively entitled Finance and the Good Society. 01:25.700 --> 01:30.170 I'm still not sure, that that will be the final title. 01:30.170 --> 01:33.320 Some of you have been offering me suggested titles, and I 01:33.320 --> 01:36.700 appreciate that. 01:36.700 --> 01:38.990 You can never know what the title of a book will be, 01:38.990 --> 01:42.130 before you publish it, because someone else can always grab 01:42.130 --> 01:44.310 the title, and then you've got to change it. 01:47.500 --> 01:50.080 But that book was about -- 01:52.680 --> 01:53.510 see, Fabozzi et al. 01:53.510 --> 01:57.030 is more about all of the language of finance, and all 01:57.030 --> 01:59.790 of the technical details. 01:59.790 --> 02:04.460 I wanted to supplement it with something about the purpose of 02:04.460 --> 02:08.070 all this, and how it fits into our lives. 02:08.070 --> 02:10.750 So, it's not done yet, as you may be well 02:10.750 --> 02:12.480 aware in reading it. 02:12.480 --> 02:15.250 My apologies. 02:15.250 --> 02:18.160 But I benefit from interacting with you about it. 02:20.710 --> 02:22.130 It's a dynamic thing. 02:26.540 --> 02:28.910 I have a number of themes. 02:28.910 --> 02:31.820 They're all just kind of random thoughts about the 02:31.820 --> 02:33.870 major things in this course. 02:38.840 --> 02:42.590 But I mean, I'm really thinking this time about the 02:42.590 --> 02:46.870 kind of tools we've learned about, tools that are 02:46.870 --> 02:50.720 particularly useful for people who specialize in finance. 02:50.720 --> 02:53.870 But I think, this almost should be a required course 02:53.870 --> 02:55.460 for everyone. 02:55.460 --> 03:00.690 Maybe, I'm just too enthusiastic about it, but the 03:00.690 --> 03:03.650 way things get done in our society is through financial 03:03.650 --> 03:04.470 arrangements. 03:04.470 --> 03:10.210 And too many people talk in vague terms, not, how are we 03:10.210 --> 03:11.990 going to make something happen? 03:11.990 --> 03:17.520 And finance is about that, so, that's why I think this course 03:17.520 --> 03:19.630 should be -- 03:19.630 --> 03:24.000 there should be more students taking it than are. 03:24.000 --> 03:27.960 I also said, that I think that finance is not a purpose in 03:27.960 --> 03:30.420 itself, it's a tool. 03:30.420 --> 03:33.340 And that you should be building your life around some 03:33.340 --> 03:35.540 kind of purpose. 03:35.540 --> 03:38.500 There's a million different purposes, so that's something 03:38.500 --> 03:42.300 for you to create in your own mind. 03:42.300 --> 03:44.660 But that's, where the meaning of life comes from. 03:48.070 --> 03:51.470 So, another thing I've emphasized in this course is, 03:51.470 --> 03:56.240 that finance is like engineering, so you 03:56.240 --> 03:57.220 have to design it. 03:57.220 --> 04:00.130 And once something is designed and it works, it gets copied 04:00.130 --> 04:03.340 all over the world. 04:03.340 --> 04:04.950 You all have learned how to drive a car. 04:04.950 --> 04:07.390 Is there anyone here who hasn't driven a car? 04:07.390 --> 04:09.370 I won't ask for -- 04:09.370 --> 04:12.190 no one raised their hand. 04:12.190 --> 04:14.170 So, you have to know a little bit about 04:14.170 --> 04:16.790 mechanics to drive a car. 04:16.790 --> 04:19.290 Maybe not too much. 04:19.290 --> 04:24.190 But ultimately, what I wanted to do in this course is, maybe 04:24.190 --> 04:29.060 not teach you how to build a car, but how to drive a truck, 04:29.060 --> 04:32.600 something big and powerful, and get you 04:32.600 --> 04:36.010 beyond the simple things. 04:36.010 --> 04:40.440 So, finance, what does it do? 04:40.440 --> 04:42.090 It does really important things. 04:42.090 --> 04:46.680 It helps allocate scarce resources, it incentivizes 04:46.680 --> 04:51.540 people to do good work, and it manages risks. 04:51.540 --> 04:55.420 And this is, what makes for the developed world 04:55.420 --> 04:57.430 that we have now. 04:57.430 --> 04:59.790 Another theme of this course is about information 04:59.790 --> 05:03.420 technology, which is something that's rapidly expanding. 05:03.420 --> 05:05.360 I don't have to tell you that. 05:05.360 --> 05:09.640 But I think that it will change the world of finance. 05:09.640 --> 05:13.460 The last 50 years have shown tremendous changes, the next 05:13.460 --> 05:17.450 50 years will show even more dramatic changes. 05:23.490 --> 05:27.660 Or anyway, more specifically, I have seven themes that I 05:27.660 --> 05:31.270 want to cover in today's lecture. 05:31.270 --> 05:34.800 The first one is just about the morality of finance. 05:34.800 --> 05:39.510 I've been talking about this here and again, but let me say 05:39.510 --> 05:42.750 a little bit more about that in concluding. 05:42.750 --> 05:46.550 My second theme is hopelessness. 05:46.550 --> 05:51.240 There's a tendency for people to think, that, at some level, 05:51.240 --> 05:53.520 because of the world's problems, it's 05:53.520 --> 05:56.500 all hopeless, anyway. 05:56.500 --> 05:57.820 I don't think it is. 05:57.820 --> 05:58.760 Well, I've come to -- 05:58.760 --> 06:02.160 I'll have to tell you what I mean by that. 06:02.160 --> 06:04.530 Then thirdly, I just want say something 06:04.530 --> 06:07.940 about financial theory. 06:07.940 --> 06:10.740 Then to come fourth, to come back to another theme, which 06:10.740 --> 06:15.510 is wealth and poverty, which I've talked about a lot. 06:15.510 --> 06:19.030 Then, the world of the next century. 06:19.030 --> 06:22.560 And I think, one trend we'll see is the democratization of 06:22.560 --> 06:25.560 finance, that finance will become much more of an 06:25.560 --> 06:29.090 integral part of our lives in a new 06:29.090 --> 06:33.110 information-technology-enriched world. 06:33.110 --> 06:36.630 And then lastly, I'll say something about your career, 06:36.630 --> 06:38.580 whether it's in finance or in 06:38.580 --> 06:39.980 something completely different. 06:39.980 --> 06:42.580 But I'm thinking, that there is a good chance it has 06:42.580 --> 06:43.940 something to do with finance. 06:49.040 --> 06:50.720 Let me start, though, with the first thing, 06:50.720 --> 06:52.070 which is about morality. 06:52.070 --> 06:55.190 I have -- actually, the two optional readings I have on 06:55.190 --> 06:58.000 this part of the reading list are both about morality. 07:00.580 --> 07:06.210 And one is the book by Unger called Living 07:06.210 --> 07:07.580 High and Letting Die. 07:10.450 --> 07:14.020 I think, it's a dramatically well-written book, but on the 07:14.020 --> 07:25.440 first page of the book, he refers you to UNICEF, which -- 07:25.440 --> 07:32.110 actually, his book was written before the web got popular. 07:32.110 --> 07:35.900 The book is 1994, I think. 07:35.900 --> 07:36.880 1996. 07:36.880 --> 07:40.530 He could have referred to the web, but he gave the address. 07:40.530 --> 07:43.250 UNICEF is the United Nations -- 07:46.100 --> 07:48.190 what does the I stand for? 07:48.190 --> 07:51.060 Children Educational Fund, but what's the I? 07:51.060 --> 07:53.570 Can someone tell me? 07:53.570 --> 07:55.620 They don't actually emphasize, what it's spelled out. 07:55.620 --> 08:00.670 It's the United Nations fund for children of the world, and 08:00.670 --> 08:02.040 that's their website. 08:02.040 --> 08:05.320 So, he opens the book by saying, why don't you get out 08:05.320 --> 08:11.820 your checkbook right now and mail in $100 to unicef.org, 08:11.820 --> 08:19.910 because the estimate, as of 1996, is, that UNICEF can save 08:19.910 --> 08:23.480 a child's life for $3. 08:23.480 --> 08:26.880 So, you will save the lives of 33 children 08:26.880 --> 08:28.620 for your $100 check. 08:28.620 --> 08:29.400 How can they do that? 08:29.400 --> 08:30.550 How can they save a life? 08:30.550 --> 08:33.270 I think, maybe he's referring to things like vaccination 08:33.270 --> 08:36.420 programs, things that are really cheap, that some 08:36.420 --> 08:37.650 children are not getting. 08:37.650 --> 08:40.780 And so, statistically, you can save a child's life for $3. 08:43.790 --> 08:46.480 So, he says, write out a check, but of course, I can 08:46.480 --> 08:51.960 tell you what to do, and that is, just log on to that and 08:51.960 --> 08:53.500 get out your credit card. 08:53.500 --> 08:58.300 And I don't know, if you can save 33 lives with $100, but 08:58.300 --> 09:00.280 maybe you can. 09:00.280 --> 09:04.150 So, when I first read the book, I thought about that, 09:04.150 --> 09:05.870 and then I turned the page -- 09:05.870 --> 09:07.320 because most of us do -- 09:07.320 --> 09:11.270 and I realized later, a month later, that I never had 09:11.270 --> 09:13.590 written out $100 check. 09:13.590 --> 09:15.090 So, I finally did. 09:15.090 --> 09:19.640 I went on to unicef.org and I gave exactly $100, as he 09:19.640 --> 09:21.630 called for. 09:21.630 --> 09:22.700 Then, I started -- 09:22.700 --> 09:27.160 that was thought-provoking to think about that, because why 09:27.160 --> 09:30.560 did I stop at $100? 09:30.560 --> 09:33.470 Why is it that most of us don't do that? 09:33.470 --> 09:39.100 There are intellectual defenses we have -- we think 09:39.100 --> 09:41.060 of ourselves as good people -- 09:41.060 --> 09:46.770 but if you were to see a dying child, you would emotionally 09:46.770 --> 09:49.230 be driven to do something, if there was 09:49.230 --> 09:51.500 something you could do. 09:51.500 --> 09:55.010 But somehow, when they're not visible to us, we don't take 09:55.010 --> 09:58.220 action to make them visible. 09:58.220 --> 10:02.180 What the book consists of, Unger's book consists of is an 10:02.180 --> 10:07.950 analysis of all the excuses we give for not doing it, for not 10:07.950 --> 10:09.560 doing that sort of thing. 10:09.560 --> 10:11.780 So, living our comfortable lives and letting 10:11.780 --> 10:15.650 other people die. 10:15.650 --> 10:20.320 And I think, it's really an interesting book, because it 10:20.320 --> 10:23.780 is referring to a paradox of human behavior. 10:23.780 --> 10:26.040 I think of this as at the juncture of philosophy and 10:26.040 --> 10:27.140 psychology. 10:27.140 --> 10:29.480 And now, those two departments are starting to -- 10:29.480 --> 10:31.580 I understand, I'm not in either one of them -- 10:31.580 --> 10:33.750 they are starting to come together, because they're 10:33.750 --> 10:37.600 realizing that philosophical issues are related to 10:37.600 --> 10:38.850 psychological issues. 10:41.370 --> 10:45.580 So somehow, the human spirit is very empathetic and 10:45.580 --> 10:48.350 sympathetic in certain dimensions, 10:48.350 --> 10:49.770 but not so in others. 10:54.470 --> 10:57.680 When you read his book, you get a sense of meaninglessness 10:57.680 --> 10:59.920 or loss of purpose. 10:59.920 --> 11:02.140 It's not entirely comfortable to read it. 11:02.140 --> 11:05.270 He has a lot of examples of moral dilemmas. 11:08.170 --> 11:11.740 I don't mean to find fault with his book, but when I 11:11.740 --> 11:15.780 think further about it, it seems, that maybe the book is 11:15.780 --> 11:18.050 a bit circumscribed by the kind of moral 11:18.050 --> 11:19.880 dilemmas that he poses. 11:23.740 --> 11:30.890 In some sense, moral dilemmas are -- 11:30.890 --> 11:34.810 it's almost like there's a moral imperative for us to 11:34.810 --> 11:37.220 take action to do things. 11:37.220 --> 11:39.150 That's sort of what he's getting at. 11:39.150 --> 11:41.700 But there's almost a moral imperative to be 11:41.700 --> 11:43.500 entrepreneurial to do things. 11:47.100 --> 11:50.840 I mentioned before, Paul Allen, who was one of the top 11:50.840 --> 11:56.160 people in Microsoft, who made so much money and squandered 11:56.160 --> 12:00.100 some of it, apparently, on conspicuous consumption, but 12:00.100 --> 12:02.750 on the other hand, gives a billion dollars to charity. 12:05.850 --> 12:07.310 So, it seems to me that -- 12:11.130 --> 12:14.740 let's not conclude that people who don't write the $100 check 12:14.740 --> 12:19.520 are evil, and let's think of the many, many 12:19.520 --> 12:23.850 dimensionalities of morality. 12:27.010 --> 12:31.890 The other book I had on this part of the course was by 12:31.890 --> 12:37.150 William Graham Sumner, and it was written over 100 12:37.150 --> 12:38.260 years earlier -- 12:38.260 --> 12:40.310 1883 -- 12:40.310 --> 12:45.140 called What the Social Classes Owe Each Other. 12:45.140 --> 12:50.810 And Sumner was actually Yale's first real economist. 12:50.810 --> 12:52.610 Interesting person. 12:52.610 --> 12:58.370 He graduated Yale College in 1863, and he was hired by Yale 12:58.370 --> 13:07.710 as a tutor in mathematics in 1866, and became interested in 13:07.710 --> 13:09.270 economics and sociology. 13:09.270 --> 13:11.920 He has the distinction of being the first American 13:11.920 --> 13:16.090 professor to teach a course called Sociology, and in those 13:16.090 --> 13:19.320 days, there wasn't the distinction between the social 13:19.320 --> 13:20.410 sciences that there is now. 13:20.410 --> 13:23.920 So, he could teach both sociology and economics. 13:23.920 --> 13:27.630 So, in his book, I think, he started a Yale tradition of 13:27.630 --> 13:32.790 conservative economics that lasted until the 1940s. 13:32.790 --> 13:36.710 And then, Yale kind of drifted more toward the liberal end. 13:36.710 --> 13:42.960 But he writes, anyway, in 1883, "Is it 13:42.960 --> 13:44.800 wicked to be rich? 13:44.800 --> 13:51.880 Is it mean to be a capitalist?" And he says, 13:51.880 --> 13:57.100 first of all, it seems, if capitalists are just richer 13:57.100 --> 14:00.670 than other people -- he asks, where's the dividing line, 14:00.670 --> 14:03.610 when someone is rich? 14:03.610 --> 14:06.020 So, is it wicked to be above that line? 14:06.020 --> 14:07.810 But where do you draw the line? 14:07.810 --> 14:10.240 And you learn from Unger, maybe we're all wicked, 14:10.240 --> 14:13.360 because anyone who doesn't write a $100 check every day 14:13.360 --> 14:16.490 to UNICEF, when children are dying around 14:16.490 --> 14:17.840 the world, is wicked. 14:22.170 --> 14:28.730 What Sumner is saying, and it seems to be a theme that 14:28.730 --> 14:34.500 survives the centuries, in favor of capitalists. 14:34.500 --> 14:35.890 I'll quote Sumner. 14:35.890 --> 14:40.890 "The great gains of a great capitalist in a modern state 14:40.890 --> 14:46.050 must be put under the head of wages of superintendents. 14:46.050 --> 14:49.490 Anyone who believes that any great enterprise of an 14:49.490 --> 14:53.320 industrial character can be started without labor must 14:53.320 --> 14:56.060 have little experience of life. 14:56.060 --> 14:58.960 Let anyone try to get a railroad built or to start a 14:58.960 --> 15:03.590 factory and win reputation for its products, and he will find 15:03.590 --> 15:06.680 what obstacles must be overcome, what risks must be 15:06.680 --> 15:14.950 taken, what perseverance and courage are necessary." 15:14.950 --> 15:20.550 I don't know, that I entirely agree with Sumner, but he has 15:20.550 --> 15:28.090 a point, that part of our morality is to do good for the 15:28.090 --> 15:34.420 world by doing things like set up railroads, or Microsoft. 15:34.420 --> 15:39.590 And the kind of activities, that that entails, will create 15:39.590 --> 15:44.870 opportunities for conspicuous consumption, but not 15:44.870 --> 15:49.240 necessarily make that the defining characteristic of 15:49.240 --> 15:51.730 someone who does it. 15:51.730 --> 15:56.210 Nobody is perfect, and it's hard to judge people 15:56.210 --> 15:59.690 ultimately, but it seems to me that there's almost a moral 15:59.690 --> 16:01.170 imperative to entrepreneurship. 16:06.790 --> 16:09.680 Let me go on to the second theme that I said I would talk 16:09.680 --> 16:11.000 about, and that is hopelessness. 16:13.510 --> 16:19.390 A lot of people, from their education, get the idea that 16:19.390 --> 16:22.040 ultimately there's nothing we can really do. 16:22.040 --> 16:23.630 This is one of Unger's -- 16:26.339 --> 16:30.629 Unger talks about rationalizations we give for 16:30.630 --> 16:34.420 not being moral, and he calls it futility as a 16:34.420 --> 16:35.620 rationalization. 16:35.620 --> 16:38.270 Ultimately, there's always going to be starving people in 16:38.270 --> 16:41.640 the world, and I can try to help this child, but 16:41.640 --> 16:43.730 something's going to get him later, and 16:43.730 --> 16:46.280 so there's no point. 16:46.280 --> 16:51.410 If you have that kind sense of futility, it can justify any 16:51.410 --> 16:54.560 amount of hedonism. 16:54.560 --> 17:01.690 But I think, that the classic article that lends most people 17:01.690 --> 17:05.090 to that sense of futility, and I assume you know about this 17:05.090 --> 17:13.560 already, but it's Malthus, 1798, his essay on -- 17:13.560 --> 17:16.380 well, the title of it is Essay on the Principle of 17:16.380 --> 17:18.660 Population. 17:18.660 --> 17:25.080 So, Thomas Malthus wrote about the population problem. 17:25.080 --> 17:28.300 It was such a celebrated essay, that he went through 17:28.300 --> 17:31.970 six editions of it, but I'm going to quote from the first 17:31.970 --> 17:34.660 edition, just to remind you. 17:34.660 --> 17:41.770 He said, in 1798, "Population, when unchecked, increased in a 17:41.770 --> 17:46.590 geometrical ratio and subsistence for man in an 17:46.590 --> 17:49.500 arithmetical ratio." 17:49.500 --> 17:52.130 So, the population growth follows an 17:52.130 --> 17:55.050 exponential growth curve. 17:55.050 --> 17:59.840 He says geometric, but it goes like that. 17:59.840 --> 18:04.030 Whereas he said, at best, the increase of our ability to 18:04.030 --> 18:05.710 produce is linear. 18:05.705 --> 18:08.145 He calls that arithmetical. 18:08.150 --> 18:11.360 And so, the population will run off 18:11.360 --> 18:12.610 with all of our resources. 18:16.430 --> 18:18.660 There's nothing we can do, population will continue to 18:18.660 --> 18:22.300 put pressure on our resources. 18:22.300 --> 18:28.710 He says and I'm quoting again from his 1798 essay, 18:28.710 --> 18:31.440 "Population, when unchecked, goes on doubling 18:31.440 --> 18:35.640 itself every 25 years. 18:35.640 --> 18:38.740 If you go through two 25 periods where there was no 18:38.740 --> 18:41.920 check on population growth, it is impossible'' -- 18:41.920 --> 18:45.020 I'm quoting him -- "to suppose that the produce could be 18:45.020 --> 18:46.260 quadrupled. 18:46.260 --> 18:49.540 It would be contrary to all our knowledge of the qualities 18:49.535 --> 18:52.435 of land." 18:52.440 --> 19:00.090 And he comes now to his dismal law of economics. 19:00.090 --> 19:03.900 He didn't call it that, but I will quote him. 19:03.900 --> 19:08.380 "No possible form of society could prevent the almost 19:08.380 --> 19:14.180 constant action of misery upon a great part of mankind if in 19:14.180 --> 19:21.900 a state of inequality and upon all if all were equal." So, 19:21.900 --> 19:25.250 the natural state of humankind is bordering on 19:25.250 --> 19:28.380 starvation and dying. 19:28.380 --> 19:32.700 The force of his argument was quite profound, because it was 19:32.700 --> 19:34.710 hard to argue against him, that there's nothing you can 19:34.710 --> 19:35.500 do about it. 19:35.500 --> 19:38.310 That's just it. 19:38.310 --> 19:42.090 And all the theorizing of people can only result in a 19:42.090 --> 19:47.150 world, where more people are suffering and dying. 19:47.150 --> 19:50.500 If you want to think more about this, I suggest you 19:50.500 --> 19:58.740 might go to Robert Wyman, who is a professor here at Yale on 19:58.740 --> 20:05.810 Open Yale, which means it's another of these courses open 20:05.810 --> 20:08.350 on the internet. 20:08.350 --> 20:11.710 Has of course called ''Global Problems of Population 20:11.710 --> 20:15.640 Growth,'' where he spends a whole semester thinking about 20:15.640 --> 20:16.890 the Malthusian problem. 20:19.620 --> 20:22.790 One thing that he talks about in that course is, that 20:22.790 --> 20:26.530 there's a popular sense that the population problem is not 20:26.530 --> 20:30.260 so bad anymore, because many countries have introduced 20:30.260 --> 20:32.170 birth control policies. 20:32.170 --> 20:36.760 Notably, China has a one-child policy, supposedly. 20:36.760 --> 20:39.110 It's not really a one-child policy -- 20:39.110 --> 20:41.290 it's not enforced that well. 20:41.290 --> 20:45.450 It's more like a two-child policy, or people have even 20:45.450 --> 20:47.130 more than that. 20:47.130 --> 20:47.730 But other countries -- 20:47.730 --> 20:50.700 India, certain regions of India have made great 20:50.700 --> 20:53.730 progress, we're told, on birth control. 20:53.730 --> 20:58.500 But still, despite that, Wyman estimates that the world adds 20:58.500 --> 21:02.010 a billion people every twelve years. 21:02.010 --> 21:07.280 So, that's a problem, and our resources are limited. 21:07.280 --> 21:11.390 So, the problem is, that people are crowding into the 21:11.390 --> 21:14.810 cities, because there's no room for them on the land. 21:14.810 --> 21:17.180 They're trying to get an education to push themselves 21:17.180 --> 21:21.690 ahead, but the sheer numbers of people make it impossible 21:21.690 --> 21:25.230 for them all to get ahead. 21:25.230 --> 21:30.150 So, I suggest that you might take his course. 21:30.150 --> 21:32.780 It's a problem that people don't want to face up to. 21:32.780 --> 21:35.820 So, I'm sounding very dismal here, but actually, I think 21:35.820 --> 21:44.970 that the problem is not as bad as it may seem. 21:44.970 --> 21:46.730 This is my take on it. 21:46.730 --> 21:49.330 I tend to be a realist about these things. 21:49.330 --> 21:52.710 We have a population problem, it's going to be with it us, 21:52.710 --> 21:56.270 but, hey, it's been with us forever, going all the way 21:56.270 --> 21:58.150 back in history. 21:58.150 --> 22:03.360 So, it's a tough world that we live in, because the human 22:03.360 --> 22:08.390 race is naturally procreating, and naturally creating 22:08.390 --> 22:12.320 population pressures and conflicts that lead to wars 22:12.320 --> 22:15.070 and famines. 22:15.070 --> 22:18.440 We've been going through a good run in the last few 22:18.440 --> 22:23.050 centuries, but I don't know when the end -- 22:23.050 --> 22:24.200 it's not an end -- 22:24.200 --> 22:30.400 when we're going to see more severe problems, but that just 22:30.400 --> 22:32.670 seems to be right and inevitable. 22:36.110 --> 22:40.530 I think, that the weakest part of Malthus' argument is the 22:40.530 --> 22:46.000 last step, saying that it's necessarily a dismal world 22:46.000 --> 22:47.420 that results. 22:47.420 --> 22:50.940 I wanted to put the bright side on Malthus' dismal law, 22:50.940 --> 22:55.690 and that is, most of the time, everyone's fine in the world. 22:55.690 --> 22:57.230 Most people -- 22:57.230 --> 23:00.290 it's famines and wars are intermittent events that 23:00.290 --> 23:01.700 reduce population. 23:01.700 --> 23:04.550 Between those big events, pretty much everyone 23:04.550 --> 23:06.630 is doing all right. 23:06.630 --> 23:09.020 So I mean, maybe it's not as bad as you think. 23:09.020 --> 23:12.560 You know, you might get killed in a war someday, but you 23:12.560 --> 23:15.280 enjoy life until that happens. 23:15.280 --> 23:20.040 I mean, that's very basic, but I think it's true. 23:20.040 --> 23:22.760 Moreover, I think that there's a lot that we can do to make 23:22.760 --> 23:28.590 life better, even in the context of the dismal law, 23:28.590 --> 23:30.890 even accepting the dismal law. 23:30.890 --> 23:35.700 And I think that civilization is improving, so that life is 23:35.700 --> 23:39.870 better, even though there are population pressures. 23:39.870 --> 23:42.060 And that's why I think there is -- 23:42.060 --> 23:44.120 maybe I'm saying the obvious here, but I want to 23:44.120 --> 23:45.430 say it anyway -- 23:45.430 --> 23:50.830 that there are plenty of purposes and goals that people 23:50.830 --> 23:57.770 can fulfill, even taking as given Malthus' dismal law. 23:57.770 --> 24:03.830 I talked last period about nonprofit and charity, and 24:03.830 --> 24:06.840 government as well. 24:06.840 --> 24:11.060 There are a lot of people, who are doing specific things to 24:11.060 --> 24:15.800 make the world respond better to the dismal law of Malthus'. 24:18.360 --> 24:25.440 And I wanted to mention certain examples, just to make 24:25.440 --> 24:26.810 this clear. 24:26.810 --> 24:29.500 I think, that there's work being done by governments of 24:29.500 --> 24:33.840 the world, there's also work being done by individuals who 24:33.840 --> 24:37.330 don't need government, they set up their own 24:37.330 --> 24:40.120 organizations. 24:40.120 --> 24:44.190 Specifically talking about the environment. 24:44.190 --> 24:45.910 This is what's being threatened 24:45.910 --> 24:48.400 by population growth. 24:48.400 --> 24:51.670 And so, there are many foundations that deal with the 24:51.670 --> 24:52.920 environment. 24:55.570 --> 24:56.920 I'll just mention a few. 24:56.920 --> 25:01.430 The Nature Conservancy, the Worldwide Wildlife Fund, the 25:01.430 --> 25:04.850 Wildlife Conservation Society. 25:04.850 --> 25:08.310 And there are specialized ones, like African Wildlife 25:08.310 --> 25:13.090 Foundation, the Jane Goodall Institute, the Diane Fossey 25:13.090 --> 25:15.060 Gorilla Fund. 25:15.060 --> 25:16.950 You know, you think the gorillas out there are wild, 25:16.950 --> 25:19.010 but there's finance and support. 25:19.010 --> 25:19.920 They've collected money. 25:19.920 --> 25:23.930 Someone is managing an endowment for the gorillas. 25:23.930 --> 25:26.990 This is creative finance. 25:26.990 --> 25:29.480 A part of the problem with -- 25:29.480 --> 25:31.890 you think about, what's happening with the population 25:31.890 --> 25:36.320 pressures of the world, and is it bad or not? 25:36.320 --> 25:37.980 Well, in some sense, it's good. 25:37.980 --> 25:41.370 Having 10 billion people out in the world would just make 25:41.370 --> 25:43.070 for a more interesting place. 25:43.070 --> 25:46.330 There'd be more arts and sciences, and 25:46.330 --> 25:47.970 fun things to do. 25:47.970 --> 25:50.850 Eventually, we're going to colonize the Moon and Mars, 25:50.850 --> 25:53.640 and there's going to be fun trips to do, so, I don't know, 25:53.640 --> 25:56.580 if it's a bad world we're coming into, even 25:56.580 --> 25:59.860 if there are conflicts. 25:59.860 --> 26:03.850 But I think there are specific problems with that world, and 26:03.850 --> 26:06.610 one of them is the extinction of species. 26:06.610 --> 26:09.990 You think about that, we're destroying habitat for 26:09.990 --> 26:11.850 species, and they're going to be gone forever. 26:15.600 --> 26:18.470 But the thing is, that those kinds of problems are problems 26:18.470 --> 26:21.170 that have sort of business solutions. 26:21.170 --> 26:26.090 I wanted to talk about one particular foundation. 26:26.090 --> 26:27.310 It's a nonprofit. 26:27.310 --> 26:31.130 I'll just give this as an example, the Nature 26:31.130 --> 26:33.450 Conservancy. 26:33.450 --> 26:40.450 It was founded in 1951 in the United States, but it now 26:40.450 --> 26:43.670 operates in 30 countries. 26:43.670 --> 26:51.370 Its total assets are $5.6 billion, which makes it the 26:51.370 --> 26:56.050 third largest charity in the United States. 26:56.050 --> 27:08.880 And they have a principle of ''conservation by design.'' 27:08.880 --> 27:13.720 The idea is, our purpose is to prevent extinction of species. 27:13.720 --> 27:15.100 Because extinction is forever. 27:15.100 --> 27:17.290 You know, these species have taken hundreds of millions of 27:17.290 --> 27:21.440 years to evolve, they get wiped out, they're gone. 27:21.440 --> 27:24.280 As far as we know, they're gone forever. 27:24.280 --> 27:30.660 So, what they do is, they get scientists who specialize in 27:30.660 --> 27:34.950 environment and biology, and they say, which species are 27:34.950 --> 27:39.580 endangered, and what can we really do to prevent their 27:39.580 --> 27:40.990 extinction? 27:40.990 --> 27:43.810 And one thing that the scientists have been telling 27:43.810 --> 27:47.770 them is, that you have to preserve habitat for species, 27:47.770 --> 27:52.130 and you have to do it with purpose and clarity. 27:52.130 --> 27:54.310 What do these animals need? 27:54.310 --> 27:57.030 Some of them are migratory, for example, and they migrate 27:57.030 --> 28:00.040 over long distances, so you have to preserve a migratory 28:00.040 --> 28:03.060 route and stopping places along the way for them. 28:03.060 --> 28:05.920 So, it has to be done well. 28:05.920 --> 28:10.290 So, the Nature Conservancy believes, also, that the way 28:10.290 --> 28:16.440 to protect habitat is to buy land, and put up fences around 28:16.440 --> 28:20.610 that to keep people out, and then have a forest manager run 28:20.610 --> 28:27.260 it, so that the species will have it, will have that land. 28:27.260 --> 28:31.510 They say, that they have 500,000 square kilometers of 28:31.510 --> 28:34.640 land that they've bought around the world. 28:34.640 --> 28:38.930 I calculated, that there's 150 million square kilometers of 28:38.930 --> 28:43.550 land on the earth, so they have 1/3 of 1% of the world's 28:43.550 --> 28:48.900 land protected by their charity. 28:48.900 --> 28:51.890 That might seem small, but you know, that's a big difference. 28:51.890 --> 28:55.010 Because, if it's the last habitat, that might be enough 28:55.010 --> 28:58.070 to keep a lot of species' diversity going. 28:58.070 --> 29:05.280 So, that's an example of what -- this is really finance. 29:05.280 --> 29:11.600 We have portfolio managers managing portfolios and 29:11.600 --> 29:16.230 properties of land with a good purpose. 29:24.620 --> 29:26.850 That's, where I say, the moral dilemmas are not so simple. 29:26.850 --> 29:29.530 You could take a job managing a portfolio for one of these 29:29.530 --> 29:32.220 foundations. 29:32.220 --> 29:38.680 Peter Unger, in his book, is talking always about, would 29:38.680 --> 29:40.710 you save a child who fell in the water or 29:40.710 --> 29:42.020 something like that? 29:42.020 --> 29:47.780 But that's not the kind of moral dilemmas that we really 29:47.780 --> 29:53.300 face, that an energetic intellect would find. 29:53.300 --> 29:57.170 The moral dilemma is to prevent big, bad things from 29:57.170 --> 30:01.060 happening, and that takes a sort of entrepreneurship and 30:01.060 --> 30:05.380 big thinking to manage. 30:05.380 --> 30:08.940 Another thought I had in this context is about wars. 30:08.940 --> 30:13.250 I was saying that population pressures are a fact of life, 30:13.250 --> 30:20.060 and I'm skeptical that anyone will change the basic nature 30:20.060 --> 30:22.750 of the situation. 30:22.750 --> 30:29.220 But I wanted, in this context, to emphasize that financial 30:29.220 --> 30:36.940 arrangements are capable of enduring and surviving wars 30:36.940 --> 30:39.720 and catastrophes. 30:39.720 --> 30:44.650 I wanted particularly to make it clear, that there's a 30:44.650 --> 30:47.230 tendency for people to think, that finance is something that 30:47.230 --> 30:49.060 the government runs. 30:49.056 --> 30:51.326 You can easily get that impression, because, when you 30:51.330 --> 30:53.870 go into finance, the first thing you have to do is get 30:53.870 --> 30:57.690 licensed, and you have to file some papers with either the 30:57.690 --> 30:59.280 government or a government-approved 30:59.280 --> 31:01.210 organization. 31:01.210 --> 31:03.750 And then, you will find, there's a whole list of laws 31:03.750 --> 31:08.240 and regulations that you have to memorize, and forms that 31:08.240 --> 31:10.420 have to be filed with government agencies, and 31:10.420 --> 31:12.540 permissions to be granted. 31:12.540 --> 31:16.340 So, it sounds like this is just the government. 31:16.340 --> 31:17.880 But I think, that's the wrong view. 31:17.880 --> 31:21.290 I think that you should think of finance as people making 31:21.290 --> 31:24.640 arrangements with other people, and governments are 31:24.640 --> 31:30.700 helpful, and they enforce a contract, but they don't 31:30.700 --> 31:32.680 determine them. 31:32.680 --> 31:38.380 And in particular, I wanted to give you a few examples that 31:38.380 --> 31:39.630 clarify this. 31:44.480 --> 31:51.320 What do you think happened after World War I with 31:51.320 --> 31:53.130 financial arrangements? 31:53.130 --> 31:57.960 Germany lost the war. 31:57.960 --> 32:00.690 People were really angry with Germany. 32:00.690 --> 32:06.640 In the Versailles Conference after World War I, Germany was 32:06.640 --> 32:11.020 made to pay huge reparation payments, payments that some 32:11.020 --> 32:13.950 people thought were so heavy, that the country will never be 32:13.950 --> 32:15.440 able to do it. 32:15.440 --> 32:19.700 So, what do you think they did to financial contracts? 32:19.700 --> 32:24.790 Germany was at its knees, people thought they were evil, 32:24.790 --> 32:27.070 or many people thought they were evil. 32:27.070 --> 32:29.780 Well, there was talk about taking away -- people who own 32:29.780 --> 32:33.660 stocks or bonds, let's just confiscate them, and tell 32:33.660 --> 32:37.430 them, you were in the wrong country at the wrong time -- 32:37.430 --> 32:39.270 tough on you. 32:39.270 --> 32:42.000 Well, they talked about doing it, but they didn't do it. 32:42.000 --> 32:44.890 The reparations were obligations of the German 32:44.890 --> 32:48.960 government, and they were paid by taxing people. 32:48.960 --> 32:50.940 And they taxed people in an equitable -- 32:50.940 --> 32:52.610 they didn't actually pay them, by the way. 32:52.605 --> 32:54.045 The skeptics were right. 32:54.050 --> 32:57.620 Germany never was able to pay the reparations, but it tried 32:57.620 --> 33:01.200 to pay them by taxing people, not by confiscating. 33:01.200 --> 33:03.250 Because ultimately, when it came down to it, they thought, 33:03.250 --> 33:05.750 well, Germans are all different, and some of them 33:05.750 --> 33:08.630 supported the war, and some of them didn't, and some of them 33:08.630 --> 33:11.510 saved all their lives, and they've got a big amount of 33:11.510 --> 33:15.450 money, so let's not confiscate their shares. 33:15.449 --> 33:17.129 So, they didn't. 33:17.130 --> 33:18.380 That's my first example. 33:23.880 --> 33:25.700 Second example. 33:25.699 --> 33:27.679 Iran. 33:27.679 --> 33:31.809 Remember, it was ruled by the Shah of Iran, who was a 33:31.810 --> 33:37.220 secular ruler, hereditary ruler of Iran. 33:37.219 --> 33:43.889 Overthrown by a people's Islamic revolution, and the 33:43.889 --> 33:49.049 Ayatollah Khomeini became the spiritual authority for the 33:49.050 --> 33:52.220 new country, it became much more Islamic. 33:52.219 --> 33:52.479 All right. 33:52.480 --> 33:54.750 So, what do you think happened to financial 33:54.750 --> 33:56.350 contracts in Iran? 33:56.350 --> 34:00.840 In particular, the Iranian government under the Shah had 34:00.840 --> 34:04.520 a social security system, and they were paying to government 34:04.520 --> 34:06.280 employees' pensions. 34:06.280 --> 34:08.580 So, what do you think the Ayatollah did? 34:08.580 --> 34:12.110 A guy is working all his life for the Shah, we've overthrown 34:12.110 --> 34:13.070 the Shah -- 34:13.070 --> 34:14.290 do you still get your pension? 34:14.290 --> 34:15.780 What do you think? 34:15.780 --> 34:16.500 They did. 34:16.500 --> 34:18.270 They didn't cancel. 34:18.270 --> 34:19.960 I think, it's like common sense. 34:19.960 --> 34:23.490 You come in, you are a totally different government, now 34:23.490 --> 34:26.540 you're a radical Islamic government. 34:26.540 --> 34:28.760 Now, I don't say, that they won't do some things that you 34:28.760 --> 34:35.110 don't like, but they see the basic financial contracts and 34:35.110 --> 34:36.770 they preserve them. 34:36.770 --> 34:39.500 The other example I'll give is South Africa. 34:43.180 --> 34:49.200 And that is, in 1994, the white apartheid government was 34:49.200 --> 34:53.450 replaced by a government that was elected by the black 34:53.450 --> 34:55.160 majority in South Africa. 34:57.840 --> 34:59.640 So, what do you think happened to their 34:59.640 --> 35:03.090 pensions or their insurance? 35:03.090 --> 35:04.440 Where they confiscated? 35:04.440 --> 35:05.670 No. 35:05.670 --> 35:07.580 So, I think that this is a principle in history. 35:07.580 --> 35:10.360 Now, I can give other examples, of course, where 35:10.360 --> 35:12.660 things went badly. 35:12.660 --> 35:17.410 Vladimir Lenin wasn't so kind to stockholders in Russia 35:17.410 --> 35:19.910 after this Russian Revolution. 35:19.910 --> 35:25.560 Lazaro Cardenas in Mexico nationalized the oil industry. 35:25.560 --> 35:26.410 Mao Zedong -- 35:26.410 --> 35:27.790 you know who he is, in China -- 35:30.720 --> 35:32.950 not kind to capitalists. 35:32.950 --> 35:37.730 Mohammad Mosaddegh in Iran nationalized the oil industry. 35:37.730 --> 35:44.490 Gamal Abdel Nasser in Egypt nationalized a wide range of 35:44.490 --> 35:45.020 industries. 35:45.020 --> 35:49.700 Even in India, Indira Gandhi did widespread 35:49.700 --> 35:54.530 nationalizations that were effectively confiscations. 35:54.530 --> 35:57.330 Even the United States has in some sense been involved in 35:57.330 --> 35:58.790 those sorts of things. 35:58.790 --> 36:02.830 After World War II, the United States was not going to 36:02.830 --> 36:07.080 confiscate wealth of wealthy people in general, but in 36:07.080 --> 36:11.840 Japan, there were these wealthy families that 36:11.840 --> 36:17.460 maintained industries, called Zaibatsu. 36:17.460 --> 36:23.230 These were the family-owned businesses that dominated 36:23.230 --> 36:27.230 Japan before World War II. 36:27.230 --> 36:35.710 The big four, Mitsubishi, Yasuda -- 36:35.710 --> 36:37.010 who else? 36:37.010 --> 36:37.570 Mitsui -- 36:37.570 --> 36:39.480 and what am I thinking of? 36:39.480 --> 36:41.330 It's not in my notes. 36:41.330 --> 36:47.560 But these big, wealthy families were thought to have 36:47.560 --> 36:52.600 supported the war and made Japan into more radical than 36:52.600 --> 36:53.780 it would have been. 36:53.780 --> 36:56.360 So, there was a lot of U.S. thinking that we had to break 36:56.360 --> 36:57.800 up the Zaibatsu. 36:57.800 --> 37:00.730 So, what the United States did was, force these families to 37:00.730 --> 37:10.250 convert their holdings of industry in Japan into 37:10.250 --> 37:12.310 yen-denominated government bonds. 37:12.310 --> 37:14.210 And then, the Japanese government had a huge 37:14.210 --> 37:16.420 hyperinflation and wiped them out. 37:16.420 --> 37:18.700 So, it wasn't actually a confiscation. 37:18.700 --> 37:22.240 The U.S. government didn't deliberately confiscate the 37:22.240 --> 37:29.640 wealth of the Zaibatsu, but they effectively did that. 37:29.640 --> 37:32.880 By the way, we still have Zaibatsu in Japan, but they're 37:32.880 --> 37:35.870 not owned by those families anymore. 37:35.870 --> 37:39.060 The same industrial conglomerates still survive. 37:41.880 --> 37:45.970 Third topic, I was saying I would talk about is -- 37:45.970 --> 37:48.120 maybe I'll be brief about this -- the importance 37:48.120 --> 37:49.370 of financial theory. 37:54.130 --> 37:57.120 I'm an advocate of two seemingly disparate things, 37:57.120 --> 37:58.820 and you know this from this course. 37:58.820 --> 38:00.970 One of them is Mathematical Finance. 38:00.970 --> 38:07.070 We spent some time on it, but not very much, because there's 38:07.070 --> 38:09.140 another course -- it's also on Open Yale -- 38:09.140 --> 38:15.990 that John Geanakoplos has on Mathematical Finance. 38:15.990 --> 38:21.950 But the other side of it is Behavioral Finance, which is a 38:21.950 --> 38:24.930 particular passion of mine. 38:24.930 --> 38:29.530 And Behavioral Finance is the application of psychology and 38:29.530 --> 38:32.470 other social sciences to finance. 38:32.470 --> 38:35.620 And I think, that the two actually work together 38:35.620 --> 38:40.060 symbiotically, and that we should consider them together. 38:40.060 --> 38:43.120 Some people in Mathematical Finance are very opposed to 38:43.120 --> 38:49.590 Behavioral Finance, because it kind of muddles their world, 38:49.590 --> 38:51.780 but in fact, I think, they should consider it their 38:51.780 --> 38:57.500 salvation, because without Behavioral Finance, they're 38:57.500 --> 39:00.370 kind of bordering on irrelevant. 39:00.370 --> 39:05.120 You have to consider things in a broader context and think of 39:05.120 --> 39:08.310 the interruptions and problems that are caused. 39:13.650 --> 39:16.630 I said, the next topic I would talk about today is -- 39:16.630 --> 39:19.100 I've already been talking about it a bit -- is about 39:19.100 --> 39:20.430 welfare and poverty. 39:20.430 --> 39:22.670 It seems to me, it's fundamentally connected with 39:22.670 --> 39:26.290 our thoughts about finance, because -- 39:26.290 --> 39:29.090 I've referred to this problem before, that people think, 39:29.090 --> 39:33.070 that people who go into finance are money grubbers. 39:33.070 --> 39:38.490 They want to make money, they don't have human feelings or 39:38.490 --> 39:41.770 something like that. 39:41.770 --> 39:47.850 And there's also the sense, that we're living in a world 39:47.850 --> 39:51.900 that's increasingly plutocratic, that the wealthy 39:51.900 --> 39:57.420 people are controlling the world. 40:00.160 --> 40:04.010 That was a theme that took a lot of impetus in the 19th 40:04.010 --> 40:07.560 century with Karl Marx, who said exactly that. 40:07.560 --> 40:10.440 And in some sense, it's coming back -- 40:10.440 --> 40:12.840 maybe in not such an extreme form. 40:12.840 --> 40:16.930 So, Jacob Hacker, who's in our political science department, 40:16.930 --> 40:23.030 and Paul Pearson, who's at Stanford University, have a 40:23.030 --> 40:25.860 new book that just came out called 40:25.860 --> 40:32.340 Winner-Take-All Politics. 40:32.340 --> 40:38.160 And that book is about -- 40:38.160 --> 40:40.720 they have a claim in that book, that the world is 40:40.720 --> 40:47.050 getting more polarized by the political power of financial 40:47.050 --> 40:49.090 institutions. 40:49.090 --> 40:51.060 Basically, they have something, they call the ''30 40:51.055 --> 40:53.645 years war.'' What's the 30 years war? 40:53.650 --> 40:55.050 You might think, it's something that happened in the 40:55.050 --> 40:56.420 17th century. 40:56.420 --> 40:57.450 Not for them. 40:57.450 --> 41:00.990 The 30 years war is the war against the people of the 41:00.990 --> 41:05.290 world, fought by the financial community in the halls of 41:05.290 --> 41:08.480 Congress and Parliament, by lobbying. 41:08.480 --> 41:12.040 So, they argue that the companies have gotten more and 41:12.040 --> 41:17.980 more sophisticated in lobbying governments to fulfill their 41:17.980 --> 41:23.610 ambitions, and so, the income inequality that we're seeing 41:23.610 --> 41:26.630 increasing, particularly in the United States, but also 41:26.630 --> 41:30.680 elsewhere in the world, is a consequence of this. 41:30.680 --> 41:33.640 So, Hacker and Pearson say -- 41:33.640 --> 41:37.300 much of the literature on income inequality says, it has 41:37.300 --> 41:40.130 something to do with the information revolution, which 41:40.130 --> 41:45.970 is eliminating jobs for low income people, and the 41:45.970 --> 41:49.350 increasing importance of education, which rewards 41:49.350 --> 41:51.370 college graduates at the expense of 41:51.370 --> 41:53.520 uneducated people -- 41:53.520 --> 41:57.380 but they say, that the real increase in inequality has not 41:57.380 --> 42:01.760 been between high school graduates and college 42:01.760 --> 42:06.150 graduates, it's between the whole population and the top 42:06.150 --> 42:07.940 tenth of a percent. 42:07.940 --> 42:12.270 There is this small community of super rich people, that is 42:12.270 --> 42:16.940 developing, who are very adept at lobbying governments. 42:16.940 --> 42:19.080 This is a trend that's developing. 42:22.810 --> 42:26.630 Well, I think to some extent, they are probably right. 42:26.630 --> 42:29.830 I think, maybe they overstate that, but I think, it's a 42:29.830 --> 42:32.890 concern, but I think, that we do have democratic 42:32.890 --> 42:39.110 institutions, and we can respond to that. 42:39.110 --> 42:42.690 So that I think, maybe, they overstate it, because 42:42.690 --> 42:45.130 I think that -- 42:45.130 --> 42:47.510 I've met billionaires in my life -- 42:47.510 --> 42:49.440 I have a sense, that they are not -- 42:53.960 --> 42:56.560 I haven't met enough of them to make generalities about 42:56.560 --> 42:57.140 billionaires -- 42:57.140 --> 43:00.070 but maybe, they have a little bit of a self-serving 43:00.070 --> 43:03.440 mentality, but in some sense they seem not to care. 43:06.430 --> 43:10.050 They don't want to be viewed as evil, they want to be -- 43:10.050 --> 43:12.610 a lot of what drove them to become billionaires was a 43:12.610 --> 43:16.540 sense, that they would be a benefactor of some sort, and 43:16.540 --> 43:18.630 so they're ready to give it away. 43:18.630 --> 43:22.860 Anyway, that may be a casual impression. 43:22.860 --> 43:25.720 But one thing that angers people about wealth is the 43:25.720 --> 43:30.830 tendency of wealthy people to build monuments to themselves. 43:30.830 --> 43:34.510 So, I was thinking of that, when I was at the J.P. Morgan 43:34.510 --> 43:39.620 Library in New York, and also there's something called the 43:39.620 --> 43:42.850 Metropolitan Club, which is another building that he built 43:42.850 --> 43:50.220 to himself, this huge mansion in Manhattan that he built. 43:50.220 --> 43:52.750 And I was thinking, is J.P. Morgan evil? 43:52.750 --> 43:56.020 I mean, people are starving in the world, and he's building a 43:56.020 --> 43:57.570 mansion for himself. 43:57.570 --> 43:59.080 But then, I reflected further -- 43:59.080 --> 44:01.360 here, I am having dinner in his mansion. 44:01.360 --> 44:03.740 He's gone. 44:03.740 --> 44:14.150 And is it really so bad in the scheme of things? 44:24.840 --> 44:26.910 I guess, you can view it in different ways. 44:26.910 --> 44:34.550 You can view J.P. Morgan as a great success, who ended up 44:34.550 --> 44:36.590 helping the world, or you can view him as a 44:36.590 --> 44:39.760 selfish monument builder. 44:46.460 --> 44:49.790 His life overlapped with Karl Marx, that I told you about. 44:49.790 --> 44:54.310 But one of Karl Marx's themes was, that 44:54.310 --> 44:56.330 the system is unfair. 44:56.330 --> 44:57.850 That some people have capital -- 44:57.850 --> 45:00.750 that was a theme of his book, Das Kapital -- some people 45:00.750 --> 45:03.940 have capital, and they are wealthy as a result, and they 45:03.940 --> 45:05.900 will continue to be wealthy, and they'll make their 45:05.900 --> 45:07.910 children wealthy as a result. 45:07.910 --> 45:11.460 I actually have a quote from Karl Marx. 45:11.460 --> 45:14.370 "It is not, because he is a leader of industry that a man 45:14.370 --> 45:18.530 in is a capitalist. On the contrary, he is a leader of 45:18.530 --> 45:22.370 industry, because he is a capitalist. The leadership of 45:22.370 --> 45:26.090 industry is an attribute of capital, just as in feudal 45:26.090 --> 45:31.510 times the functions of general and judge were attributes of 45:31.510 --> 45:37.990 landed property." That comes from his book, Das Kapital, in 45:37.990 --> 45:41.020 the 19th century. 45:41.020 --> 45:45.730 So, Marx thought, that ownership of capital was like 45:45.730 --> 45:52.000 a key to the good life, and that the population was 45:52.000 --> 45:54.990 excluded from that. 45:54.990 --> 45:57.490 But I'm going to come back to the democratization of 45:57.490 --> 46:01.770 finance, but it seems like capitalism -- it isn't 46:01.770 --> 46:05.230 essentials to capitalism that some social 46:05.230 --> 46:07.790 class dominates capital. 46:07.790 --> 46:14.600 We can have a capitalism that is divided up among -- 46:14.600 --> 46:18.780 that is more people's, it belongs to people, and there's 46:18.780 --> 46:23.640 not a privileged class. 46:23.640 --> 46:28.840 So, I another thing I wanted to talk about is my concern -- 46:28.840 --> 46:29.810 Marx was impressive -- 46:29.810 --> 46:31.380 I think I may have said this before -- 46:31.380 --> 46:35.870 he was impressive, because he read emerging sociology. 46:35.870 --> 46:40.020 And the sociology of his day was beginning to recognize, 46:40.020 --> 46:43.630 that people do form themselves into social classes, and have 46:43.630 --> 46:47.290 a sense of loyalty to others in their social class. 46:47.290 --> 46:50.290 But I think, that anything he said is of limited 46:50.290 --> 46:51.930 relevance today -- 46:51.930 --> 46:53.880 was always of limited relevance. 46:53.880 --> 46:56.570 Interesting, but wrong in many ways. 47:00.155 --> 47:08.055 I'm thinking of the works of another important thinker, 47:08.060 --> 47:15.370 Robert K. Merton, who was a sociologist at Columbia. 47:15.370 --> 47:21.630 He was the father of Robert Merton, the economist, who 47:21.630 --> 47:24.460 helped develop option theory. 47:24.460 --> 47:29.500 But Robert K. Merton referred to, what he called the 47:29.500 --> 47:35.310 ''cosmopolitan class.'' He was looking at social classes. 47:35.310 --> 47:38.570 He picked a small town in the United States, and interviewed 47:38.570 --> 47:41.920 a lot of people, and was trying to understand their 47:41.920 --> 47:42.670 class structure. 47:42.670 --> 47:44.250 You know, who do you identify with? 47:44.250 --> 47:47.970 Who are you loyal with? 47:47.970 --> 47:54.330 He was a deep thinker, I think, and looked at what 47:54.330 --> 47:57.040 really seemed to separate people. 47:57.040 --> 48:01.300 And he decided, that, in this little town, that there were 48:01.300 --> 48:03.220 really two classes of people. 48:03.220 --> 48:06.290 He called them cosmopolitans and locals. 48:09.080 --> 48:14.550 So, the cosmopolitans had a very different worldview. 48:14.550 --> 48:18.580 They tended to not care about what's going on in their town. 48:18.580 --> 48:21.860 They would talk about national or international things. 48:21.860 --> 48:23.670 He'd listen to what they say. 48:23.670 --> 48:26.510 They were focused outside, they thought the town was 48:26.510 --> 48:30.700 irrelevant, and they tended to have maybe 48:30.700 --> 48:32.930 higher-level positions. 48:32.930 --> 48:35.980 The locals were people, though, who would talk all 48:35.980 --> 48:38.170 about their town, and they would talk 48:38.170 --> 48:39.880 about people they know. 48:39.880 --> 48:44.740 They seemed to value their connections within the town. 48:44.740 --> 48:50.070 And when you asked for opinions about the local town, 48:50.070 --> 48:54.130 the locals would tend to give almost loving expressions. 48:54.130 --> 48:57.670 This is a great town, we have a great people here. 48:57.670 --> 49:00.900 And the cosmopolitans would act totally indifferent, and 49:00.900 --> 49:02.280 they don't know anybody. 49:02.280 --> 49:04.940 They don't know, who's the head of the fire department, 49:04.940 --> 49:07.190 or who holds the -- 49:07.190 --> 49:10.900 maybe they know the principal the school, because they may 49:10.900 --> 49:13.380 have their kid in the school, but beyond that, they don't 49:13.380 --> 49:15.440 know anything about their town. 49:15.440 --> 49:19.190 So, Merton wrote that over 50 years ago. 49:19.190 --> 49:22.580 I have a sense, that it's developing further, this split 49:22.580 --> 49:25.140 between cosmopolitans and locals. 49:25.140 --> 49:27.610 And it's developing on a world scale. 49:27.610 --> 49:32.940 There's now a world cosmopolitan class, and with 49:32.940 --> 49:36.730 increased communications we're kind of split that way. 49:36.730 --> 49:40.570 So, people around the world who are learning to speak 49:40.570 --> 49:44.520 English well, that's the world language, people who travel 49:44.520 --> 49:53.620 around the world, and people who are finance savvy, they 49:53.620 --> 49:58.230 are developing into a social class. 49:58.230 --> 50:01.710 And I think, that there are animosities and conflicts, but 50:01.710 --> 50:05.800 it's a little bit harder, because the cosmopolitans are 50:05.800 --> 50:09.160 so scattered and they're relatives of us, so it's not 50:09.160 --> 50:14.840 as intense a social contrast. 50:14.840 --> 50:17.590 But you know, I think, that the animosities that we are 50:17.590 --> 50:22.420 feeling now have to do with the fact, that cosmopolitans 50:22.420 --> 50:25.190 know and understand finance, and they 50:25.190 --> 50:28.820 have lawyers and advisors. 50:28.820 --> 50:34.540 The rest of the population feels excluded from that. 50:34.540 --> 50:41.080 So, that brings us to what I said was the democratization 50:41.080 --> 50:42.650 of finance. 50:42.650 --> 50:47.820 And this is a theme of my own that I've been emphasizing. 50:47.820 --> 50:50.500 So, the democratization of finance is sort of trying to 50:50.500 --> 50:56.040 make it move beyond the cosmopolitan class. 50:56.040 --> 51:01.110 So, cosmopolitans know how to get things done, how to raise 51:01.110 --> 51:08.360 capital, and they know how to manage their risks, so they 51:08.360 --> 51:10.250 don't get into trouble. 51:10.250 --> 51:13.380 Inequality is substantially due to a 51:13.380 --> 51:15.540 failure to manage risks. 51:21.170 --> 51:21.420 Right? 51:21.420 --> 51:25.130 I mean, some inequality is due to fundamental things, like 51:25.130 --> 51:27.620 someone is talented and can make more money. 51:27.620 --> 51:30.760 But it's also due to random things that are not 51:30.760 --> 51:32.260 controlled. 51:32.260 --> 51:36.500 Notably, in the current financial crisis, we saw a 51:36.500 --> 51:38.730 huge drop in home values. 51:38.730 --> 51:41.130 And we saw people, who bought homes at the top of the 51:41.130 --> 51:44.620 market, and then they find, that their mortgages are worth 51:44.620 --> 51:47.900 more than their homes are, and so they have a 51:47.900 --> 51:49.730 negative net worth. 51:49.730 --> 51:52.560 They're in trouble, they would be bankrupt -- 51:52.560 --> 51:54.750 maybe they're not bankrupt yet, but they're 51:54.750 --> 51:56.080 verging on that -- 51:56.080 --> 51:58.170 they're very unhappy. 51:58.170 --> 52:02.850 This was a failure, I think, of bringing 52:02.850 --> 52:04.210 finance to the people. 52:04.210 --> 52:07.270 So, it's not democratizing finance -- 52:07.270 --> 52:09.760 we haven't finished democratizing finance. 52:12.780 --> 52:15.330 So, it's kind of chaotic, the way things 52:15.330 --> 52:19.070 work for most people. 52:19.070 --> 52:23.020 Most people who, a, do not have a lawyer, b, do not have 52:23.020 --> 52:27.860 a financial adviser, c, do not have an accountant. 52:27.860 --> 52:33.090 Or maybe they go to some storefront tax-paying service, 52:33.090 --> 52:35.940 but that's as far as they go. 52:35.940 --> 52:39.000 And these people make a mess of their lives. 52:39.000 --> 52:43.910 So for example, we have laws that allow people to go 52:43.910 --> 52:48.580 bankrupt and wipe off their debts. 52:48.580 --> 52:52.420 All you have to do, if you are in trouble, financial trouble, 52:52.420 --> 52:58.160 is go to a lawyer and say, can you help me file for Chapter 7 52:58.160 --> 52:58.750 bankruptcy? 52:58.750 --> 53:01.990 I'd like to wipe out all my debts. 53:01.990 --> 53:05.170 But usually, you have to have $1,000 to pay the lawyer to 53:05.170 --> 53:08.310 help you do this, and these people can't get it together 53:08.310 --> 53:09.620 to do that. 53:09.620 --> 53:10.460 So, what happens? 53:10.460 --> 53:14.300 What happens to this typical person, who is uneducated, has 53:14.300 --> 53:16.190 gotten deeply in debt? 53:16.190 --> 53:18.000 What do you think happens? 53:18.000 --> 53:19.770 Do they ever declare bankruptcy? 53:19.770 --> 53:21.380 No. 53:21.380 --> 53:21.880 What do they do? 53:21.880 --> 53:24.920 They stop answering the phone, because they're getting these 53:24.920 --> 53:27.880 dunning calls from creditors. 53:27.880 --> 53:29.680 And so, the creditors then -- 53:29.680 --> 53:31.790 it's called informal bankruptcy. 53:31.790 --> 53:36.810 They will go to court, and ask the judge to allow them to 53:36.810 --> 53:39.870 garnish the wages of the person who won't pay and won't 53:39.870 --> 53:41.750 answer the phone. 53:41.750 --> 53:43.900 So, they'll take another deduction from the person's 53:43.900 --> 53:45.380 paycheck, eventually. 53:45.380 --> 53:46.750 The person never figures it out. 53:46.750 --> 53:51.200 His paycheck just went down, he is paying off his debt. 53:51.200 --> 53:52.220 What a mess. 53:52.220 --> 53:58.560 But that's because of the failure of financial 53:58.560 --> 54:01.820 institutions to handle things well. 54:01.820 --> 54:05.660 So, Elizabeth Warren, who is at -- 54:05.660 --> 54:07.730 I mentioned her before -- 54:07.730 --> 54:11.420 at the Harvard Law School has written a couple of books 54:11.420 --> 54:14.760 about these problems that people face. 54:14.760 --> 54:19.020 And it's a testimony to the success of our democratic 54:19.020 --> 54:23.450 government, that she managed to persuade Dodd and Frank to 54:23.450 --> 54:32.740 put it in their bill, the Consumer Financial Protection 54:32.740 --> 54:40.530 Bureau, which would create a government agency that would 54:40.530 --> 54:47.520 try to limit the abuse of lower income, 54:47.520 --> 54:51.410 less educated people. 54:51.410 --> 54:54.610 We were hoping, that she would be made head of her bureau, 54:54.610 --> 54:58.970 but it turns out, that she's only acting -- 54:58.970 --> 55:00.790 I forget what her exact title is -- 55:00.790 --> 55:03.830 transitioning into finding a head for the bureau. 55:03.830 --> 55:07.930 Because the lobbyists that I told you about, representing 55:07.930 --> 55:12.000 credit card or the mortgage industry, are adamantly 55:12.000 --> 55:16.810 opposed seeing her put on as head of the bureau. 55:16.810 --> 55:19.360 So, it looks like it's politically impossible to put 55:19.360 --> 55:22.550 her in charge of it, but she's at least involved in helping 55:22.550 --> 55:27.220 pick the person who would make that happen. 55:27.220 --> 55:31.930 So, I think these are nice steps forward, but I 55:31.930 --> 55:33.790 wrote a book -- 55:33.790 --> 55:40.000 let me just mention my own book -- in 2008, called The 55:39.997 --> 55:41.247 Subprime Solution. 55:46.400 --> 55:50.370 And so, I was trying to think of the future. 55:50.370 --> 55:55.670 Again, I'm trying to think creatively and expansively 55:55.670 --> 56:00.770 without thinking punitively, as Elizabeth Warren seems 56:00.770 --> 56:01.900 often to do. 56:01.900 --> 56:06.540 Her view tends to be, that there are exploiters who need 56:06.540 --> 56:08.150 to be regulated. 56:08.150 --> 56:09.590 But I'm thinking, that maybe there's something 56:09.590 --> 56:12.130 positive we can do. 56:12.130 --> 56:14.110 So, I have various ideas. 56:14.110 --> 56:18.470 Also, I had -- this was 2008 -- 56:18.470 --> 56:28.300 I also had another book, The New Financial Order, in 2003. 56:28.300 --> 56:31.350 I'm getting on toward 10 books now in my life, and I'm having 56:31.350 --> 56:33.070 trouble remembering which one is which. 56:33.070 --> 56:35.010 I was just commenting to my wife, it's a 56:35.010 --> 56:36.600 little bit of a problem. 56:36.600 --> 56:41.440 But somewhere in these books, one of the ideas I had -- 56:41.440 --> 56:44.080 actually, it's in The New Financial Order -- 56:44.080 --> 56:50.020 is for livelihood insurance that would help protect -- 56:50.020 --> 56:52.390 this is a financial institution that would protect 56:52.390 --> 56:53.980 people's livelihoods. 56:53.980 --> 56:57.180 I viewed it as an expansion of something that we've got 56:57.180 --> 56:59.360 already, called disability insurance. 56:59.360 --> 57:01.620 In fact, it's been offered by the government in the United 57:01.620 --> 57:05.570 States as part of the social security system, but it 57:05.570 --> 57:09.010 handles certain insurance against certain specific kinds 57:09.010 --> 57:11.880 of risks to livelihoods, namely health risks. 57:11.880 --> 57:15.540 If you become paralyzed, if you become mentally ill, any 57:15.540 --> 57:18.180 of those things that a doctor can attest 57:18.180 --> 57:20.860 to, is insured already. 57:20.860 --> 57:24.590 Very important, because things like that happen to people and 57:24.590 --> 57:26.990 they can't earn a living anymore, and it happens to 57:26.990 --> 57:28.020 young people. 57:28.020 --> 57:31.760 And so, we have private insurance, the government has 57:31.760 --> 57:35.720 taken over part of disability insurance, but there's also 57:35.720 --> 57:37.520 private disability insurance. 57:37.520 --> 57:39.970 But none of this covers the biggest threats to people's 57:39.970 --> 57:40.990 livelihoods. 57:40.990 --> 57:47.590 Most threats to livelihoods are not due to medical events. 57:47.590 --> 57:50.380 It's economic events that make you -- 57:50.380 --> 57:53.980 you know, you're 40 years old, you've trained for, let's say, 57:53.980 --> 57:59.230 nuclear engineering, and then we have the Fukushima or the 57:59.230 --> 58:02.600 Sendai disasters, and then suddenly no government of the 58:02.600 --> 58:05.080 world wants to build nuclear plants anymore. 58:05.080 --> 58:07.990 So, here you are, you're 40 years old, you're reaching 58:07.990 --> 58:11.340 your prime, you would normally be making a good, high income, 58:11.340 --> 58:13.370 but now it's useless. 58:13.370 --> 58:15.050 No fault of your own. 58:15.050 --> 58:19.020 This is a risk that you cannot now insure, and it's part of 58:19.020 --> 58:21.350 the thing that contributes to inequality. 58:21.350 --> 58:24.680 And so, I think that we can insure those things, and in 58:24.680 --> 58:27.610 the future, as finance develops, these are some of 58:27.610 --> 58:31.040 the missions that we have to do. 58:31.040 --> 58:35.860 Another thing is home equity insurance. 58:35.860 --> 58:40.340 I mentioned before, that the crisis was caused by failure 58:40.340 --> 58:43.860 to insure against home price risk. 58:43.860 --> 58:47.420 I've been working on trying to get home 58:47.420 --> 58:48.770 equity insurance started. 58:48.770 --> 58:53.700 Some of my colleagues at Yale, Will Goetzmann and Barry 58:53.700 --> 58:59.430 Nalebuff particularly, have actually created an insurance 58:59.430 --> 59:03.360 policy that would insure homes against price declines in the 59:03.360 --> 59:05.600 city of Syracuse, New York. 59:05.600 --> 59:07.780 Didn't really take off, so this is still 59:07.780 --> 59:10.400 not happening yet. 59:10.400 --> 59:11.630 But here's the idea -- 59:11.630 --> 59:15.440 you can buy insurance against your home burning down. 59:15.440 --> 59:18.530 That goes back 300 years. 59:18.530 --> 59:20.520 But how often do homes burn down? 59:20.520 --> 59:21.350 Not very often. 59:21.350 --> 59:23.320 What's the real risk that you face? 59:23.320 --> 59:27.400 It's the loss of economic value of a home. 59:27.400 --> 59:35.080 And so, that is not insured anywhere in the world. 59:35.080 --> 59:35.990 Why not? 59:35.990 --> 59:37.400 We could insure it. 59:37.400 --> 59:40.080 I think, these are things that would -- 59:40.080 --> 59:42.850 developing home equity insurance or livelihood 59:42.850 --> 59:45.420 insurance would be positive steps. 59:45.420 --> 59:48.600 I have one more example from this book The Subprime 59:48.600 --> 59:50.430 Solution, something that I call a 59:50.430 --> 59:57.090 continuous workout mortgage. 1:00:01.180 --> 1:00:05.730 In the financial crisis today, right now, there are 2.5 1:00:05.730 --> 1:00:08.480 million households that are on the verge of defaulting on 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:09.740 their mortgages -- 1:00:09.740 --> 1:00:13.810 haven't yet, but they are at risk of defaulting and being 1:00:13.810 --> 1:00:15.430 thrown out of their houses. 1:00:15.430 --> 1:00:19.120 So, that's something like close to 10 million people. 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:20.870 Big time event. 1:00:20.870 --> 1:00:22.810 Why is it that they're being thrown out? 1:00:22.810 --> 1:00:25.020 Well, because their home value has dropped, maybe they're 1:00:25.020 --> 1:00:27.910 unemployed, their income has dropped -- we still have 8.8% 1:00:27.910 --> 1:00:29.440 unemployment -- 1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:31.790 and they can't pay their mortgage. 1:00:31.790 --> 1:00:35.710 And maybe, they think it's futile, because they're paying 1:00:35.710 --> 1:00:38.840 a debt that is bigger than their wealth. 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:42.210 So maybe, they don't feel in a very good mood about it. 1:00:42.210 --> 1:00:45.900 They go back to the mortgage lender and ask for a workout, 1:00:45.900 --> 1:00:48.680 and the mortgage lender typically says no. 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.090 The government has done a sequence of programs to try to 1:00:52.090 --> 1:00:57.260 encourage the servicers of mortgages to do workouts, that 1:00:57.260 --> 1:01:01.420 means lower their payments or somehow worth make it easier. 1:01:01.420 --> 1:01:02.900 But it's been disappointing. 1:01:02.900 --> 1:01:05.820 They haven't succeeded in getting cooperation on these 1:01:05.820 --> 1:01:09.090 programs. It's one of the big tragedies of 1:01:09.090 --> 1:01:10.620 the financial crisis. 1:01:10.620 --> 1:01:14.650 So, what I proposed is, that we should think forward. 1:01:14.650 --> 1:01:17.360 I don't know, how we can solve this mess right now, but think 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:20.310 about in the future, having mortgages that have a 1:01:20.310 --> 1:01:22.510 pre-planned workout. 1:01:22.510 --> 1:01:32.590 And the workout would lower the cost of -- 1:01:32.590 --> 1:01:35.180 lower the payment on the mortgage. 1:01:35.180 --> 1:01:37.080 Continuously, not just -- 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:39.590 the other problem with workouts is, even when people 1:01:39.590 --> 1:01:42.760 get a workout on their mortgage, they default anyway, 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:44.810 because things get even worse later. 1:01:44.810 --> 1:01:47.140 And you've got one workout, you go back and say, I'd like 1:01:47.140 --> 1:01:48.380 another workout. 1:01:48.380 --> 1:01:50.130 They say, you have got to be kidding. 1:01:50.130 --> 1:01:53.660 And anyway, the government, like the HAMP program, that 1:01:53.660 --> 1:02:00.030 the Obama administration has promoted, has only one workout 1:02:00.030 --> 1:02:01.140 for each family. 1:02:01.140 --> 1:02:05.020 So, I think they should be continuous and automatic. 1:02:05.015 --> 1:02:13.615 And they don't require anyone to apply for a workout. 1:02:17.630 --> 1:02:19.030 So, how much time do I have? 1:02:19.030 --> 1:02:24.970 I think I'll move to my last subject, which is your career. 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:32.310 Because you are young people and you may be wondering what 1:02:32.310 --> 1:02:33.560 you want to do. 1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:43.870 I think, I maybe have reflected on this before. 1:02:43.870 --> 1:02:46.840 You probably feel, that you want to do something 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:55.960 important, and you want a sort of perfect career, something 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:58.770 that tells a story, makes a story of your life and 1:02:58.770 --> 1:03:01.680 ultimately serves for good causes. 1:03:05.350 --> 1:03:13.070 But when you read Unger, you don't get an inspiration like 1:03:13.070 --> 1:03:13.710 that, right? 1:03:13.710 --> 1:03:14.460 You get -- 1:03:14.460 --> 1:03:18.020 he says, write a check right now to UNICEF. 1:03:18.020 --> 1:03:22.550 Well, I can do that, but it seems unrewarding just to give 1:03:22.550 --> 1:03:23.970 to charity. 1:03:23.970 --> 1:03:26.560 I can just live like a monk, right? 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:32.040 I could take a job at a hamburger joint, and then give 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:35.000 all my money away to UNICEF. 1:03:35.000 --> 1:03:37.260 Somehow that doesn't feel -- 1:03:37.260 --> 1:03:40.290 I think, that you know, that you have abilities, and you 1:03:40.290 --> 1:03:44.050 want to see them flourish, and you want to -- 1:03:44.050 --> 1:03:47.070 that's why I think, you shouldn't be flipping 1:03:47.070 --> 1:03:48.710 hamburgers and giving the money away. 1:03:48.710 --> 1:03:51.460 That's not what you should be doing now. 1:03:51.460 --> 1:03:54.470 And instead, it would be learning things that make it 1:03:54.470 --> 1:03:57.520 possible to do good works. 1:04:04.670 --> 1:04:06.680 What is the perfect career? 1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:11.310 I mentioned Paul Allen or Bill Gates. 1:04:11.310 --> 1:04:12.680 Bill Gates -- 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:14.710 I shouldn't give you an example of dropping out of 1:04:14.710 --> 1:04:17.600 college, but he dropped out of college. 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:19.980 And by the way, you should do that, if you have a 1:04:19.980 --> 1:04:24.880 Microsoft-size idea, but I think I've said this before. 1:04:36.260 --> 1:04:36.510 I don't know. 1:04:36.510 --> 1:04:37.580 What is the perfect career? 1:04:37.580 --> 1:04:39.070 I'll give you another example. 1:04:39.070 --> 1:04:40.650 Mohammad Yunus. 1:04:40.650 --> 1:04:41.900 You've heard of him. 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:52.920 He went to a Ph.D. program at Vanderbilt University, got his 1:04:52.920 --> 1:04:58.160 Ph.D. in 1969, became an assistant professor of 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:04.360 economics at Middle Tennessee State University. 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:08.190 But then, the big thing that he did is, he went back to 1:05:08.190 --> 1:05:12.080 Bangladesh and founded the Grameen Bank. 1:05:14.920 --> 1:05:23.070 The Grameen Bank, which specialized in making 1:05:23.070 --> 1:05:28.020 microfinance loans in Bangladesh, 1:05:28.020 --> 1:05:28.650 and that was in '76. 1:05:28.651 --> 1:05:28.721 [clarification: Mohammad Yunus started making microfinance 1:05:28.717 --> 1:05:28.827 loans in Bangladesh in 1976, but the institution of the 1:05:28.827 --> 1:05:32.407 Grameen Bank was not established until 1983.] 1:05:32.410 --> 1:05:37.140 Grameen apparently means ''of the village'' in Bengali. 1:05:37.140 --> 1:05:39.480 But what he did is, he conceived of a new way of 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:44.700 making loans to very low-income people. 1:05:44.700 --> 1:05:50.000 Banks before Yunus didn't have much interest in lending to 1:05:50.000 --> 1:05:53.380 low-income people, because the costs of administering the 1:05:53.380 --> 1:05:56.520 loan seemed to be too high, relative to what 1:05:56.520 --> 1:05:57.950 you could get back. 1:05:57.950 --> 1:06:00.310 But he had a scheme for getting people to 1:06:00.310 --> 1:06:02.960 pay back the loans. 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:07.450 Often, they would make loans to women in groups -- 1:06:07.450 --> 1:06:10.200 impoverished women, but he would lend to the whole group 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:14.110 and say, that the whole group is jointly liable to the debt, 1:06:14.110 --> 1:06:16.160 that's the only way we'll make it. 1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:18.740 And it's for business, for starting a business, like 1:06:18.740 --> 1:06:20.760 getting a wheeled cart, where you could 1:06:20.760 --> 1:06:22.440 sell food on the street. 1:06:22.440 --> 1:06:24.690 Some simple, low business like that. 1:06:24.690 --> 1:06:27.650 You can't do it, unless you get a little bit of capital, 1:06:27.650 --> 1:06:30.110 enough to buy the cart and buy the first 1:06:30.110 --> 1:06:33.030 food to start selling. 1:06:33.030 --> 1:06:36.230 And these women can't get that capital, but when he makes it 1:06:36.230 --> 1:06:40.800 available to them as a group, they then interact with each 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:44.040 other and enforce the good behavior of each other. 1:06:44.040 --> 1:06:45.710 And it's a system that worked. 1:06:45.710 --> 1:06:51.020 So, he won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2006. 1:06:51.020 --> 1:06:52.730 It was not the prize in economics, it was 1:06:52.730 --> 1:06:54.740 the prize in peace. 1:06:54.740 --> 1:07:00.250 So, that's an example of the kind of careers that, I think, 1:07:00.250 --> 1:07:01.990 some of you might think about. 1:07:04.700 --> 1:07:08.700 So, I think that in looking forward to your own careers, 1:07:08.700 --> 1:07:13.530 you have to think about the next five decades. 1:07:13.530 --> 1:07:14.630 You're going to be working -- 1:07:14.630 --> 1:07:16.260 I said this before, I think -- 1:07:16.260 --> 1:07:19.650 but you're going to be working for another 50 years, right? 1:07:19.649 --> 1:07:22.549 More, if you enjoy it. 1:07:22.550 --> 1:07:26.500 With modern health care, you might live to 100, but you 1:07:26.500 --> 1:07:28.130 won't be working at 100, probably. 1:07:28.130 --> 1:07:30.580 You'll probably retire by then. 1:07:30.580 --> 1:07:31.750 Maybe not. 1:07:31.750 --> 1:07:34.980 Maybe, you've got a century ahead of you. 1:07:34.979 --> 1:07:39.059 And I think, that the world will change a lot over this 1:07:39.060 --> 1:07:40.440 interval of time. 1:07:40.439 --> 1:07:45.529 I think that, by the way, information technology will be 1:07:45.529 --> 1:07:48.139 changing so many things that we do in ways 1:07:48.140 --> 1:07:50.420 that we can't see. 1:07:50.420 --> 1:07:54.060 And financial markets will be everywhere. 1:07:54.060 --> 1:07:56.880 So, I may be presumptuous to think, that some of these 1:07:56.880 --> 1:08:03.060 ideas here are likely to come about, but I've come to start 1:08:03.060 --> 1:08:06.220 to think, that they're all inevitable, because we've 1:08:06.220 --> 1:08:11.080 already seen the past. We've seen, how financial markets 1:08:11.080 --> 1:08:13.510 have captured more and more risks. 1:08:13.510 --> 1:08:17.050 And we have such an advance in our technology, that there 1:08:17.050 --> 1:08:20.680 really ought to be big changes that will come. 1:08:24.830 --> 1:08:30.300 So, I guess, what you have to do is, maintain a century-long 1:08:30.300 --> 1:08:31.680 personal outlook. 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:32.800 I mean, just think about how much 1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:34.870 happened in the last century. 1:08:34.870 --> 1:08:37.230 We had two world wars, we had the whole 1:08:37.229 --> 1:08:39.029 communism came and -- 1:08:39.029 --> 1:08:42.929 extreme communism came and disappeared. 1:08:42.930 --> 1:08:47.120 Things like that are going to happen in the next century, 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:55.930 and so, I think you have to reflect on your role as an 1:08:55.930 --> 1:08:59.410 agent, not to think of it as something that a remote 1:08:59.410 --> 1:09:00.820 government is handling. 1:09:00.820 --> 1:09:03.640 This is something that you have responsibility for 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:07.230 helping develop, how the world will turn 1:09:07.230 --> 1:09:10.320 out in the next century. 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:14.280 I was just saying that governments come and go, but 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:17.570 financial contracts and institutions and the people 1:09:17.570 --> 1:09:21.840 who manage them continue. 1:09:21.840 --> 1:09:25.210 I think, that you face great career risks in this new 1:09:25.210 --> 1:09:26.460 environment. 1:09:28.170 --> 1:09:30.860 I mentioned before, the 40 year-old, who finds that his 1:09:30.860 --> 1:09:36.830 career is suddenly eliminated because of some random change. 1:09:36.830 --> 1:09:40.660 There's evidence that, what happens to you in life, 1:09:40.660 --> 1:09:43.830 depends on random events. 1:09:43.830 --> 1:09:46.400 It's really so much unforecastable. 1:09:46.400 --> 1:09:48.830 I'm thinking of myself, for example. 1:09:48.830 --> 1:09:50.580 What did I think I would be doing? 1:09:50.580 --> 1:09:51.300 I'm still -- 1:09:51.300 --> 1:09:52.510 I just stayed in the same place. 1:09:52.510 --> 1:09:54.960 I've lived in New Haven for almost 30 years and I've been 1:09:54.960 --> 1:09:56.590 a college professor. 1:09:56.590 --> 1:09:59.670 But when I was your age, I never thought that I would be 1:09:59.670 --> 1:10:03.040 doing public speaking the way I have been. 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:03.640 I get -- 1:10:03.640 --> 1:10:04.970 I'm all over the -- 1:10:04.965 --> 1:10:07.585 I don't mean to exaggerate, but I didn't have the 1:10:07.590 --> 1:10:08.800 confidence. 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:11.340 You know, I was on my high school debate team, and I 1:10:11.340 --> 1:10:14.080 didn't particularly do well. 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:15.580 I think you just develop -- 1:10:15.580 --> 1:10:17.900 careers develop and random things happen, and you 1:10:17.900 --> 1:10:20.920 discover things about yourself. 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:23.430 I was going to point out studies, that show how random 1:10:23.430 --> 1:10:26.810 events affect where you go. 1:10:26.810 --> 1:10:36.750 So Joshua Angrist, who's an economist, did a study of the 1:10:36.750 --> 1:10:42.610 effect of the draft lottery on success of people in life. 1:10:42.610 --> 1:10:47.540 In 1969, during the Vietnam War, the U.S. government 1:10:47.540 --> 1:10:51.730 decided to use a lottery, based on birthdates, to 1:10:51.730 --> 1:10:54.410 decide, who gets drafted into the U.S. 1:10:54.410 --> 1:10:56.890 Army and sent to Vietnam. 1:10:56.890 --> 1:11:01.850 And so, Angrist thought, that was a good controlled 1:11:01.850 --> 1:11:02.450 experiment. 1:11:02.450 --> 1:11:05.670 Let's compare the lifetime income of people who -- they 1:11:05.670 --> 1:11:08.960 way they did it is, they drew out of an urn all birthdays -- 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:12.240 there's 366 days, birthdays -- 1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:14.810 they drew them out of an urn, and the first one who was 1:11:14.805 --> 1:11:18.245 drawn was the first one to go to Vietnam. 1:11:18.250 --> 1:11:24.220 And then, as it went down, the higher the number, the less 1:11:24.220 --> 1:11:28.540 likely it is that you would ever be asked to go. 1:11:28.540 --> 1:11:30.070 And so Angrist -- 1:11:30.070 --> 1:11:33.330 by the way, I got 362. 1:11:33.330 --> 1:11:34.450 I couldn't believe it. 1:11:34.450 --> 1:11:37.670 What great luck. 1:11:37.670 --> 1:11:38.880 We were listening on the radio -- 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:42.520 I was a graduate student -- we were listening on the radio 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:47.000 for the lottery numbers, and we were drinking beer, and 1:11:47.000 --> 1:11:50.220 people were all excited, wondering who was 1:11:50.220 --> 1:11:51.860 going to get drafted. 1:11:51.860 --> 1:11:55.210 And I thought, you know, when it got into the 350s, 350, 1:11:55.210 --> 1:12:00.200 351, 352, I thought, I must have missed my birthday. 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:03.700 I can't be this far down, but I got 362. 1:12:03.700 --> 1:12:06.030 And that's part of my success story, because according to 1:12:06.030 --> 1:12:09.620 Angrist, people who were drafted, who got the low 1:12:09.620 --> 1:12:13.260 number on the lottery, ended up with 1:12:13.260 --> 1:12:16.340 lower lifetime earnings. 1:12:16.340 --> 1:12:20.550 That kind of random event affects your whole life. 1:12:20.550 --> 1:12:24.100 You know, the word career goes back to the sense, that there 1:12:24.100 --> 1:12:28.800 are random things that happen, opportunities that come, and 1:12:28.800 --> 1:12:33.040 lack of opportunities that hurt your life. 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:41.510 So, I think that you have to accept the fact, that it's a 1:12:41.510 --> 1:12:47.680 risky world, that you have to try to position yourself, 1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:48.490 maintain -- 1:12:48.490 --> 1:12:51.220 I think -- one important piece of advice I like to think of 1:12:51.220 --> 1:12:55.610 is, maintain an orientation toward history in the making. 1:12:55.610 --> 1:12:59.220 That there's a tendency for people to orient themselves in 1:12:59.220 --> 1:13:01.710 terms of their own life cycle. 1:13:01.710 --> 1:13:03.000 They think, what's going on now? 1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:05.900 Well, I'm a junior at Yale, and I'm going to be applying 1:13:05.900 --> 1:13:08.730 to graduate school next year. 1:13:08.730 --> 1:13:11.810 You should be thinking, well, this is a time in history, 1:13:11.810 --> 1:13:23.040 when the Middle East is changing rapidly, that the 1:13:23.035 --> 1:13:27.475 emerging countries are developing new technologies, 1:13:27.480 --> 1:13:30.110 and thinking about the opportunities that are 1:13:30.110 --> 1:13:31.520 happening in the world. 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:32.950 That's kind of what we got from Hank 1:13:32.950 --> 1:13:34.110 Greenberg in his lecture. 1:13:34.110 --> 1:13:38.020 Remember, that he said, that the founder of his company 1:13:38.020 --> 1:13:41.960 decided to move to China at the beginning of the 20th 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:45.730 century, and founded a business because of what he 1:13:45.730 --> 1:13:48.600 saw was happening in Shanghai, which was an international 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:49.850 city at the time. 1:13:49.850 --> 1:13:53.720 So, I'm going to go there, and I'm going to make a business. 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:55.880 That's kind of positioning yourself with history. 1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:59.160 And then, he moved out of China before Mao Zedong took 1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.350 over, and then moved back in. 1:14:01.350 --> 1:14:04.490 I mean, this is history awareness, and I think that it 1:14:04.490 --> 1:14:05.090 matters enormously. 1:14:05.090 --> 1:14:08.090 But you still can't completely eliminate the role of chance 1:14:08.090 --> 1:14:10.490 in your life, this is a time-honored principle. 1:14:10.490 --> 1:14:12.890 I was actually going to quote the Bible. 1:14:12.890 --> 1:14:15.890 Ecclesiastes was a book of the Bible written in--when was 1:14:15.890 --> 1:14:17.990 that written--around 500 BC or 600 BC. 1:14:17.990 --> 1:14:20.690 And this is, you probably already heard this, "I 1:14:20.690 --> 1:14:24.590 returned and saw under the sun that the race is not to the 1:14:24.590 --> 1:14:27.890 swift, nor the battle of the strong, neither yet bread to 1:14:27.890 --> 1:14:31.190 the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet 1:14:31.190 --> 1:14:34.490 favor to men of skill, but time and chance happeneth to 1:14:34.490 --> 1:14:36.890 them all." So, that's a time-honored truth, that 1:14:36.890 --> 1:14:37.190 randomness-- 1:14:37.190 --> 1:14:40.490 I actually had this "time and chance happeneth to them all," 1:14:40.490 --> 1:14:43.190 I actually had that inscribed in Latin when I 1:14:43.190 --> 1:14:44.390 had my office redone. 1:14:44.390 --> 1:14:47.990 It's over my desk in my office at home, "tempus casumque in 1:14:47.990 --> 1:14:51.290 omnibus." Chance plays a huge role in our lives and this 1:14:51.290 --> 1:14:54.290 risky world plays a sequence of events over your lifetime 1:14:54.290 --> 1:14:56.390 that we have to try to manage. 1:14:56.390 --> 1:14:59.090 So, what I hoped to do in this course. 1:14:59.090 --> 1:15:02.390 This was really a course about managing risks as well as 1:15:02.390 --> 1:15:04.190 enterprise and creating a cooperative spirit. 1:15:04.190 --> 1:15:08.090 I wanted to try to convey to you that we have a technology 1:15:08.090 --> 1:15:11.090 for that, that should be a part of your life. 1:15:11.090 --> 1:15:12.290 All right, thank you. 1:15:12.290 --> 1:15:13.540 [APPLAUSE]