WEBVTT 00:02.029 --> 00:05.559 Prof: We've been going through the generations of 00:05.561 --> 00:09.031 organic chemistry, from Lavoisier to Berzelius and 00:09.030 --> 00:11.930 Gay-Lussac, to Dumas, Liebig and Woehler, 00:16.390 --> 00:19.980 talking about their discovery, or invention really, 00:19.980 --> 00:23.450 of valence; in particular the tetravalence 00:23.452 --> 00:25.782 and the self-linking of carbon. 00:27.836 --> 00:30.556 is most noted for is the structure of benzene, 00:30.560 --> 00:34.650 and we started looking at that a little bit last time with his 00:34.654 --> 00:37.544 sausage diagrams for drawing a structure. 00:37.540 --> 00:42.240 And this time we'll go on in more detail with that idea in 00:42.240 --> 00:46.280 the determination of actual position in molecules, 00:46.281 --> 00:49.581 the positions of atoms in molecules. 00:53.660 --> 00:56.200 so the next generation: Wilhelm Koerner, 00:56.200 --> 00:58.820 who was both in Germany and in Italy, 00:58.820 --> 01:02.960 as you'll see, and Jacobus Henricus van't 01:02.960 --> 01:05.050 Hoff, from the Netherlands, 01:05.049 --> 01:07.749 and also Albert Ladenburg, from Germany, 01:07.751 --> 01:11.841 and we'll even have a little message of your own -- 01:11.840 --> 02:23.240 <>. 02:23.240 --> 02:30.430 Okay, so we -- Koerner, van't Hoff, Ladenburg and 02:30.431 --> 02:33.881 E.P. Kohler, who is your 02:33.877 --> 02:40.317 great-great-grandfather academically. 02:40.318 --> 02:43.418 Okay, so benzene and molecular structure. 02:43.419 --> 02:46.559 This is the simplest of the so-called aromatic compounds. 02:46.560 --> 02:48.730 Obviously the name comes from the smell, 02:48.729 --> 02:52.499 that it has an aroma, but it was generalized from 02:52.497 --> 02:56.397 benzene which -- benzene was discovered in 1825 02:56.399 --> 03:00.879 by Faraday who isolated what he called bicarburet of 03:00.878 --> 03:03.588 hydrogen, which was C_2H, 03:03.592 --> 03:07.362 according to his formula, but actually it's C_6H_6, 03:07.364 --> 03:10.554 because he had the carbon doubled and it's six times what 03:10.552 --> 03:11.752 he thought it was. 03:11.750 --> 03:14.410 And he got it from gas oil, which is a byproduct. 03:14.408 --> 03:16.518 Quite a bit, you get a gallon -- or they did 03:16.522 --> 03:19.092 at least then; I don't know what happens 03:19.090 --> 03:22.580 nowadays -- for making 1000 cubic feet of the oil, 03:22.580 --> 03:27.530 that was an illuminating oil; illuminating gas, pardon me. 03:27.530 --> 03:31.550 So in 1833 Mitscherlich named the compound benzine, 03:31.552 --> 03:34.452 instead of bicarburet of hydrogen. 03:34.449 --> 03:37.119 And the origin of the name is interesting. 03:37.120 --> 03:40.710 It came from gum benzoin, via benzoic acid. 03:40.710 --> 03:44.890 So you knocked the CO_2, somehow, off of benzoic acid, 03:44.890 --> 03:48.600 and you get what Mitscherlich called benzine. 03:48.598 --> 03:51.708 Now gum benzoin itself has an interesting etymology, 03:51.710 --> 03:54.840 because it came originally from luban jawi, 03:54.840 --> 03:57.810 which I'm told is Arabic, meaning frankincense -- 03:57.810 --> 04:00.300 that's luban -- and jawi is from java. 04:00.300 --> 04:03.390 So it came from the southeast Asia. 04:03.389 --> 04:06.369 But when the French saw this name, they assumed that 04:06.373 --> 04:09.363 lu was like le, la, les, 04:09.359 --> 04:10.939 and so on, the article. 04:10.939 --> 04:12.039 So they knocked it off. 04:12.038 --> 04:16.248 So it became ban jawi, which doesn't mean anything in 04:16.245 --> 04:20.235 Arabic, but that then became benzoin and then benzine. 04:20.240 --> 04:20.610 Okay? 04:20.608 --> 04:23.918 The French, in 1841, named the alcohol version 04:27.535 --> 04:29.815 and we'll see why shortly. 04:29.819 --> 04:33.549 We call it phenol, and we call C_6H_5 phenyl, 04:33.545 --> 04:37.015 and abbreviate it Ph for phenyl, or Φ, 04:37.016 --> 04:39.806 the Greek letter, for phenyl. 04:39.810 --> 04:42.460 And it comes from phainein, 04:42.458 --> 04:47.108 which means to bring light, because of its association with 04:47.113 --> 04:48.803 illuminating gas. 04:52.795 --> 04:56.705 benzene is hexagonal, even though he wrote it with 04:56.711 --> 04:59.431 that sausage thing originally. 04:59.430 --> 05:01.010 Now why? 05:01.009 --> 05:03.089 On what basis did he think it was hexagonal? 05:03.088 --> 05:06.078 Well this is the paper where he proposed it's hexagonal, 05:06.076 --> 05:08.686 and I'll show you all the evidence he gave in his 05:08.685 --> 05:10.745 arguments for its being a hexagon. 05:10.750 --> 05:13.460 First, "All aromatic compounds" 05:13.463 --> 05:14.763 (so, for example, 05:14.762 --> 05:18.602 benzaldehyde as well as benzene and so on) "even the 05:18.601 --> 05:22.511 simplest are significantly richer in carbon than analogous 05:22.509 --> 05:26.349 compounds from the class of fatty substances." 05:26.350 --> 05:29.760 Okay, so it's rich in carbon; that's the first evidence that 05:29.761 --> 05:30.931 it's a hexagon. 05:30.930 --> 05:33.450 The second is that "Aromatic compounds, 05:33.447 --> 05:36.487 as for fatty compounds, there are numerous homologous 05:36.490 --> 05:39.480 substances; that is, those who composition 05:39.478 --> 05:43.768 differ by an integral number of CH_2 groups." 05:43.769 --> 05:48.189 So if you replace a hydrogen by a methyl group, 05:48.187 --> 05:50.297 you add CH_2, right? 05:50.300 --> 05:55.230 Or if you put a CH_2 into a C-C bond, it becomes a little bit 05:55.226 --> 05:56.866 longer, a homolog. 05:56.870 --> 06:00.240 So there are homologous substances in the aromatic 06:00.240 --> 06:00.860 series. 06:00.860 --> 06:04.750 The third line of evidence was, "The simplest aromatic 06:04.750 --> 06:08.240 compounds contain at least six carbon atoms." 06:08.240 --> 06:09.220 Okay? 06:09.220 --> 06:11.060 And the fourth line of evidence is, 06:11.060 --> 06:14.800 "All reaction products from aromatic substances show a 06:14.800 --> 06:18.660 certain family similarity, constituting the group of 06:18.658 --> 06:20.408 'aromatic' compounds. 06:20.410 --> 06:23.850 More vigorous reaction can remove part of the carbon, 06:23.850 --> 06:27.840 but the major product contains at least six carbon atoms, 06:27.839 --> 06:29.889 and decomposition stops at this point, 06:29.889 --> 06:31.769 unless there is complete destruction of the organic 06:31.771 --> 06:32.301 group." 06:32.300 --> 06:34.400 For example, burning it. 06:34.399 --> 06:37.369 And that's it. 06:37.370 --> 06:39.330 Those are the four lines of evidence. 06:39.329 --> 06:44.529 So would you conclude from that that benzene is a hexagon? 06:44.529 --> 06:45.949 It's quite a stretch. 06:45.949 --> 06:50.019 So was this just a wild guess, based on the idea that carbon 06:50.016 --> 06:51.666 should be tetravalent? 06:51.670 --> 06:54.080 And even in a sense that doesn't help much because 06:54.076 --> 06:56.926 there's a question of what you do with that last valence of 06:56.925 --> 06:57.805 carbon, right? 06:57.810 --> 07:02.450 So he did have some support for this, but he didn't cite it in 07:02.447 --> 07:03.357 the paper. 07:03.360 --> 07:05.550 He didn't publish it until later. 07:05.550 --> 07:06.790 It had to do with counting isomers. 07:06.790 --> 07:10.620 07:10.620 --> 07:14.540 So, remember this was the formula he drew in 1865 of 07:14.540 --> 07:15.770 chlorobenzene. 07:15.769 --> 07:18.969 But in the next year, when he started trying actually 07:18.970 --> 07:22.950 to say that it was a hexagon, he drew a hexagon -- he didn't 07:22.954 --> 07:25.714 try to use his sausages at this point -- 07:25.709 --> 07:29.119 and he contrasted it with what you get with a triangle of 07:29.120 --> 07:32.420 carbons, with a carbon in the middle of 07:32.415 --> 07:33.375 each edge. 07:33.379 --> 07:36.829 Okay, so he labels the vertices, the carbon atoms, 07:36.829 --> 07:40.069 a, b, c, d, e, f, and counts isomers. 07:40.069 --> 07:42.489 And this is his table of that count. 07:42.490 --> 07:46.190 So monobromobenzene, there's only one form. 07:46.190 --> 07:46.490 Right? 07:46.487 --> 07:49.507 Obviously if it were a chain of six carbons, you could have it 07:49.507 --> 07:51.987 on the end, or the carbon that was next to the end, 07:51.985 --> 07:53.565 or the carbon next to that. 07:53.569 --> 07:54.859 Right? So there'd be isomers. 07:54.860 --> 07:57.270 But, in fact, only one was known, 07:57.266 --> 07:58.166 monobromo. 07:58.170 --> 08:00.650 Now how about dibromobenzene? 08:00.649 --> 08:04.259 It turns out that there are three modifications, 08:04.264 --> 08:07.884 he says: ab, ac, and ad. 08:07.879 --> 08:11.309 How about ae? 08:11.310 --> 08:14.430 ae would be next nearest neighbors, like ac, 08:14.430 --> 08:16.620 and af would be like ab. 08:16.620 --> 08:18.210 Okay, so three modifications. 08:18.209 --> 08:24.329 That's consistent with its being a hexagon. 08:24.329 --> 08:29.249 Now how about tribromobenzene? 08:29.250 --> 08:31.790 There are three; drei modificationen. 08:31.790 --> 08:33.740 Okay, abc. 08:33.740 --> 08:35.640 So all successive, right? 08:35.639 --> 08:37.409 Or skip one. 08:37.409 --> 08:41.199 How about if you skip two? 08:41.200 --> 08:42.180 How about abe; 08:42.179 --> 08:45.799 08:45.799 --> 08:46.399 should we have that one? 08:46.399 --> 08:49.419 08:49.419 --> 08:51.919 How about abe? 08:51.919 --> 08:54.219 Kate, what do you say? 08:54.220 --> 08:57.840 Should we count abe as another one? 08:57.840 --> 09:02.570 09:02.570 --> 09:04.420 Steve, what do you say? 09:04.419 --> 09:05.649 Student: No. 09:05.649 --> 09:08.949 Prof: Why not? 09:08.950 --> 09:10.370 Because I asked? 09:10.370 --> 09:12.890 Student: Well because on the thing it says abc, 09:12.890 --> 09:14.090 abd, and ace. 09:14.090 --> 09:15.950 Prof: Yes, but I wonder if you agree. 09:15.950 --> 09:17.090 Maybe he's wrong. 09:17.090 --> 09:18.930 There's precedent for people being wrong. 09:18.929 --> 09:22.349 09:22.350 --> 09:24.540 Sam? 09:24.538 --> 09:26.938 Student: Isn't -- abd is the same as 09:26.936 --> 09:27.556 abe. 09:27.558 --> 09:30.248 Prof: Right, because if you count the other 09:30.251 --> 09:32.671 way, bae is the same as abd. 09:32.668 --> 09:33.008 Right? 09:33.009 --> 09:36.339 You go two in a row and then skip one, just go the other way 09:36.344 --> 09:36.914 around. 09:36.909 --> 09:37.839 Okay? 09:37.840 --> 09:40.220 Because it shouldn't make any difference which way you go 09:40.216 --> 09:40.596 around. 09:40.600 --> 09:41.840 Okay? 09:41.840 --> 09:45.430 Or there would be ace -- right? 09:45.429 --> 09:46.689 -- where you skip every time. 09:46.690 --> 09:48.790 But there's only one way of doing that. 09:48.789 --> 09:50.449 Okay, so three modifications. 09:50.450 --> 09:53.400 And if you go to four, five, six, it's the same thing, 09:53.404 --> 09:56.644 except hydrogens are what you count instead of bromines. 09:56.639 --> 09:57.839 Okay? 09:57.840 --> 10:01.770 So that was consistent with experimental observation of how 10:01.774 --> 10:06.054 many isomers there were of these mono-, di-, and tri-substituted 10:06.048 --> 10:06.928 benzenes. 10:06.929 --> 10:07.589 Yes? 10:07.590 --> 10:11.590 Student: What was he using to observe these 10:11.590 --> 10:12.870 modifications? 10:12.870 --> 10:15.800 What technique -- Prof: So how would he 10:15.804 --> 10:18.584 know they were different, that there were three different 10:18.577 --> 10:19.267 substances? 10:19.269 --> 10:20.679 Suppose he had them. 10:20.678 --> 10:22.068 He had to prepare them of course. 10:22.070 --> 10:24.190 Maybe they were not preparable -- right? 10:24.190 --> 10:27.380 -- in which case you'd have a count that was too low. 10:27.379 --> 10:29.509 But how would you know you had three different things? 10:29.509 --> 10:31.699 How could you tell things were different? 10:31.700 --> 10:32.740 Yes? 10:32.740 --> 10:33.600 Student: Boiling point. 10:33.600 --> 10:35.640 Prof: Boiling point; melting point; 10:35.639 --> 10:38.129 color maybe, although these aren't colored; 10:38.129 --> 10:40.069 density. 10:40.070 --> 10:40.670 Okay? 10:40.668 --> 10:43.118 Some physical property you have to measure. 10:43.120 --> 10:43.620 Right? 10:43.620 --> 10:45.910 The analysis obviously is going to be the same, 10:45.907 --> 10:47.197 because they're isomers. 10:47.200 --> 10:49.750 And of course, if you're not very good at 10:49.750 --> 10:52.680 measuring things, you might get a melting point 10:52.683 --> 10:56.003 between two samples that differs by two degrees. 10:56.000 --> 10:57.420 You guys are experienced in lab. 10:57.418 --> 11:01.238 Does that mean they're different? 11:01.240 --> 11:03.120 What do you say Wilson? 11:03.120 --> 11:05.980 Your experience is that it doesn't tell they're different? 11:05.980 --> 11:06.840 Okay. 11:06.840 --> 11:08.690 So it's not trivial. 11:08.690 --> 11:10.520 You have to be a good experimentalist. 11:10.519 --> 11:12.629 You have to be able to prepare them and you have to be able to 11:12.629 --> 11:14.669 tell when things are the same and when they're different. 11:14.668 --> 11:17.158 But if you do, then you can count isomers. 11:17.158 --> 11:19.728 But you have to bear this in the back of your mind that you 11:19.729 --> 11:22.079 might be making a mistake because of your experimental 11:22.076 --> 11:22.826 observations. 11:22.830 --> 11:26.230 Okay, now how about if it were a triangle, right? 11:26.230 --> 11:28.610 Then if you had a monobromobenzene, 11:28.610 --> 11:32.880 you could have the bromo either at a or at b; 11:32.879 --> 11:35.329 although it's conceivable you couldn't prepare one of them, 11:35.332 --> 11:37.492 or one of them would be reactive for some reason. 11:37.490 --> 11:38.720 Okay? 11:38.720 --> 11:43.320 And if you had two, you could have ab, 11:43.322 --> 11:46.042 or ac, or bd, 11:46.041 --> 11:47.821 or ad. 11:47.820 --> 11:50.980 There'd be four modifications instead of three, 11:50.979 --> 11:53.589 assuming you could prepare them all. 11:53.590 --> 11:53.880 Right? 11:53.876 --> 11:56.746 And then you can go on to the tribromo and see there would be 11:56.754 --> 11:57.094 six. 11:57.090 --> 12:02.510 Okay, so by counting isomers, you could get information about 12:02.513 --> 12:03.963 the structure. 12:03.960 --> 12:04.670 Okay? 12:04.668 --> 12:08.498 In fact, the paper that I xeroxed this from had written 12:08.495 --> 12:10.255 in, in old brown ink, 12:10.259 --> 12:13.019 the letters from the bottom u, 12:13.019 --> 12:16.639 k, e, k, e, l, going around the ring, 12:16.639 --> 12:19.769 for a, b, c, d, e, f. 12:19.769 --> 12:23.549 And written next to these things was names for the 12:23.552 --> 12:27.112 compounds; elukek and so on; 12:27.110 --> 12:28.780 ekeluk, ekulek, 12:28.784 --> 12:30.704 for the order of these things. 12:30.700 --> 12:32.220 Do you see what's funny? 12:33.629 --> 12:34.749 Prof: Right. 12:34.749 --> 12:37.279 No, ekulek, they said, was Arabic for 12:37.282 --> 12:40.742 hexagon; that's what was written in the 12:40.738 --> 12:41.298 book. 12:41.298 --> 12:45.458 So you've got humorists in all ages. 12:45.460 --> 12:49.920 Okay, now let's try applying the idea of isomer count to see 12:49.923 --> 12:53.933 if we can distinguish, among Dewar's models of benzene 12:53.934 --> 12:55.604 that I showed you. 12:55.600 --> 12:59.260 So first there's the one top and center, which is what we 13:02.259 --> 13:03.579 okay, single bond, double bond, 13:03.575 --> 13:04.755 single bond, double bond. 13:04.759 --> 13:06.579 How many isomers? 13:06.580 --> 13:11.510 Okay, how many monosubstituted isomers, if you put just one 13:11.514 --> 13:12.624 bromine in? 13:12.620 --> 13:17.330 And if that were the structure, a faithful representation of 13:17.333 --> 13:20.933 the arrangement, how many different ones could 13:20.931 --> 13:21.891 you get? 13:21.889 --> 13:22.669 Just one. 13:22.668 --> 13:25.268 Okay all the hydrogens are, in that sense, 13:25.274 --> 13:26.104 equivalent. 13:26.100 --> 13:30.620 Okay, how about if they're di, how many could you get? 13:30.620 --> 13:33.870 There's one, two, three, four, 13:33.865 --> 13:34.645 five. 13:34.649 --> 13:36.929 Right? 13:36.929 --> 13:41.559 So are they all different? 13:41.559 --> 13:43.329 Kate, what do you say? 13:43.330 --> 13:46.600 Student: The purple and the red are the same -- . 13:46.600 --> 13:49.410 Prof: You say the purple and the red are the same. 13:49.409 --> 13:50.339 Anything else? 13:50.340 --> 13:51.650 Student: The two blue ones. 13:51.649 --> 13:54.499 Prof: The two blues are the same. 13:54.500 --> 13:57.260 Now does everybody agree with that? 13:57.259 --> 13:58.189 Sherwin? 13:58.190 --> 14:00.210 Student: With the purple you've got the red ones 14:00.212 --> 14:01.062 across a double bond. 14:01.058 --> 14:02.518 Prof: Ah ha! 14:02.520 --> 14:07.060 the red one is across a square, and the purple one is across 14:07.057 --> 14:08.747 just a single bond. 14:08.750 --> 14:09.780 Right? 14:09.778 --> 14:13.108 So those are different, if this model is faithful in 14:13.110 --> 14:14.090 that respect. 14:14.090 --> 14:14.940 Okay? 14:14.940 --> 14:17.930 So, but we should take that one out, because that one goes 14:17.928 --> 14:20.078 across both a square and a single bond. 14:20.080 --> 14:22.060 <> 14:22.059 --> 14:24.809 Ah, that's somebody else; okay. 14:24.808 --> 14:29.168 Okay, now so there'd be four disubstituted isomers if it were 14:31.928 --> 14:32.248 Right? 14:32.246 --> 14:34.416 Now how about if it were this structure? 14:34.419 --> 14:37.439 How many monos? 14:37.440 --> 14:40.700 If you replace just one hydrogen, how many different 14:40.702 --> 14:41.472 hydrogens? 14:41.470 --> 14:42.320 Elizabeth? 14:42.320 --> 14:43.000 Student: Six. 14:43.000 --> 14:43.990 Prof: Six. 14:43.985 --> 14:45.315 They're all different. 14:45.320 --> 14:46.310 Right? 14:46.308 --> 14:47.538 So there'll be six monos. 14:47.541 --> 14:48.281 How many di's? 14:48.279 --> 14:49.499 Well let's count them. 14:49.500 --> 14:52.030 So we'll start from the top left there. 14:52.029 --> 14:55.309 There would be those sets of di's, the ones connected by 14:55.306 --> 14:56.196 those arrows. 14:56.200 --> 14:57.500 And then we could start from the top -- 14:57.500 --> 15:00.530 pardon me, five of those -- then we could start from that 15:00.528 --> 15:04.098 one and there'd be four, and three, and two additional 15:04.100 --> 15:05.830 ones, and one, from that, 15:05.830 --> 15:07.950 that hasn't been counted before. 15:07.950 --> 15:12.210 So we'd have fifteen disubstituted isomers. 15:12.210 --> 15:13.210 Right? 15:13.210 --> 15:14.450 Now how about these? 15:14.450 --> 15:18.830 Notice for these two that in both cases it's AA, 15:18.831 --> 15:19.671 BB, AA. 15:19.668 --> 15:22.238 In the bottom one it's turned on its side, but the same 15:22.241 --> 15:23.911 relationship, the symmetry of it. 15:23.909 --> 15:24.969 Right? 15:24.970 --> 15:27.430 Everybody see that? 15:27.428 --> 15:30.038 Okay, so these will have the same number of isomers, 15:30.042 --> 15:32.712 even though their structures are obviously different, 15:32.706 --> 15:34.496 but the same number of isomers. 15:34.500 --> 15:38.520 So there'll be two monosubstituted isomers, 15:38.519 --> 15:40.529 either an A or a B. 15:40.529 --> 15:43.729 And now we've got the di's to figure out, and it turns out 15:43.729 --> 15:44.739 there'll be six. 15:44.740 --> 15:46.890 I'll let you do that yourself. 15:46.889 --> 15:48.879 Okay, so two six there. 15:48.879 --> 15:51.689 Now how about if it were this, which is AA, 15:51.688 --> 15:55.098 BB, CC, because it doesn't have as much symmetry. 15:55.100 --> 15:58.120 The red ones don't have as much symmetry as the blue ones, 15:58.120 --> 16:00.400 although they're the same as one another. 16:00.399 --> 16:03.829 So it turns out there are three monos, A or B or C, 16:03.826 --> 16:07.286 and there are nine di's; and you can work those out if 16:07.287 --> 16:08.037 you want to. 16:08.038 --> 16:10.578 Okay, so you can't distinguish among the red ones, 16:10.580 --> 16:13.980 or between the blue ones, but you can distinguish a black 16:13.975 --> 16:17.275 one from an aqua one, from a blue, from a red. 16:17.278 --> 16:19.998 Okay, so again you can get information about structure by 16:19.998 --> 16:22.088 counting isomers, if you're good enough, 16:22.086 --> 16:26.546 and you can prepare them, and you can tell them apart. 16:26.548 --> 16:29.468 Okay, now here's a problem for you to do for Monday, 16:29.465 --> 16:31.975 and you can work in groups if you want to. 16:31.980 --> 16:37.380 But take -- this is planar and two-dimensional, 16:37.379 --> 16:38.319 right? 16:38.320 --> 16:41.210 But in truth, because carbons are 16:41.205 --> 16:45.255 tetrahedral, when they form four single bonds, 16:45.264 --> 16:47.974 the others are not planar. 16:47.970 --> 16:48.340 Right? 16:48.336 --> 16:51.686 And I've drawn here how each of them would look in three 16:51.693 --> 16:53.633 dimensions, with some things, 16:53.625 --> 16:55.775 the wedges, coming out toward you, 16:55.779 --> 16:58.339 and other things, the dotted ones, 16:58.336 --> 17:00.426 going back into the page. 17:00.429 --> 17:01.309 Right? 17:01.308 --> 17:05.528 So if you consider these in three dimensions, 17:05.528 --> 17:08.498 how many isomers can you get? 17:08.500 --> 17:10.070 Right? That's the question. 17:10.069 --> 17:12.729 Mono and disubstituted isomers. 17:12.730 --> 17:15.430 Will you be able to distinguish these, if they're 17:15.425 --> 17:16.545 three-dimensional? 17:16.548 --> 17:20.028 And -- that one, remember, is called Dewar 17:20.030 --> 17:23.070 benzene -- and the one that's not included 17:23.067 --> 17:26.317 was prismane or what's called "Ladenburg" 17:26.323 --> 17:27.043 benzene. 17:27.038 --> 17:28.768 Remember I said we'd talk about Ladenburg; 17:28.769 --> 17:30.029 he's coming up. 17:30.028 --> 17:34.038 So that's another possibility, a three-dimensional symmetrical 17:34.042 --> 17:34.572 prism. 17:34.568 --> 17:34.878 Right? 17:34.875 --> 17:37.475 Which obviously Dewar couldn't make with his models, 17:37.481 --> 17:40.551 because they would -- unless he distorted them and bent them, 17:40.547 --> 17:41.107 right? 17:41.108 --> 17:43.488 Okay, so the question is, how many mono- and 17:43.491 --> 17:45.931 disubstituted isomers can you get from these, 17:45.931 --> 17:47.761 if they're three-dimensional? 17:47.759 --> 17:52.669 So you guys can get together and talk that over and tell me 17:52.673 --> 17:53.693 on Monday. 17:53.690 --> 17:55.980 Okay? 17:55.980 --> 18:00.460 Now there's another way to get -- to infer structure, 18:00.463 --> 18:02.883 and that's from synthesis. 18:06.865 --> 18:09.555 molecules, shown on the left there -- you 18:09.563 --> 18:13.173 see the C double bond O and the two methyls attached to each 18:13.169 --> 18:14.269 central carbon. 18:14.269 --> 18:19.859 So three of those come together at a, at b, 18:19.861 --> 18:22.361 at c, losing water, 18:22.356 --> 18:27.146 and they form the double bonds on the right. 18:27.150 --> 18:32.050 So if that's the way the stuff forms, then the three carbons in 18:32.047 --> 18:36.937 this compound called mesitylene should be on every other carbon 18:36.944 --> 18:38.924 of the ring -- right? 18:38.920 --> 18:41.900 -- because of the way it was put together by losing waters 18:41.904 --> 18:42.694 between them. 18:42.690 --> 18:47.150 So that's another way of figuring out where something is, 18:47.154 --> 18:48.354 by synthesis. 18:48.348 --> 18:54.418 Notice incidentally that there are little dots in the middle of 18:54.416 --> 18:56.566 some of these bonds. 18:56.568 --> 18:58.628 Why do you think those dots are there? 18:58.630 --> 19:07.370 19:07.368 --> 19:11.818 I think it's because this is a picture of a real model, 19:11.818 --> 19:14.528 that was made with wire coming out of balls, 19:14.528 --> 19:20.748 and that was the thing that screwed them together. 19:22.672 --> 19:25.832 when he wanted to come work with him, a set of these 19:25.834 --> 19:27.264 brass-strip models. 19:30.490 --> 19:32.490 from brass-strip models. 19:32.490 --> 19:35.150 Notice the funny bonds between the carbon and the oxygen, 19:35.150 --> 19:36.860 the double bonds, those triangles. 19:36.858 --> 19:40.718 Those are made of stiff wire that comes straight out and then 19:40.719 --> 19:43.099 were fastened together at an angle. 19:43.098 --> 19:43.398 Okay? 19:46.789 --> 19:49.209 used in his lectures to show benzene. 19:49.210 --> 19:53.860 And you can see that the carbon is tetrahedral. 19:53.859 --> 19:54.599 Okay? 19:54.599 --> 19:55.299 Yes? 19:57.299 --> 19:59.009 also had a dream about a snake eating itself? 19:59.009 --> 20:02.219 Prof: Yeah, that he made up in 1890. 20:02.220 --> 20:04.370 This is long after this. 20:04.368 --> 20:07.498 It's conceivable that he had such a dream, 20:07.502 --> 20:10.562 but it was a story told for amusement. 20:10.558 --> 20:13.978 Okay, so here he is at the time he did this, in 1865, 20:13.984 --> 20:14.714 in Ghent. 20:14.710 --> 20:19.310 And he was surrounded with some hotshots. 20:19.308 --> 20:22.878 Koerner, for example, who was a young man. 20:25.992 --> 20:29.482 as well as a lab worker, and suffered from rheumatism. 20:29.480 --> 20:33.080 He came from Central Germany, which is a very sort of damp 20:33.083 --> 20:36.373 place a lot of the time, and cloudy, and so it wasn't 20:36.369 --> 20:39.859 good for his rheumatism; nor was Ghent in Belgium. 20:39.858 --> 20:45.738 So, on his doctor's advice, he went to sunny Palermo in 20:45.740 --> 20:46.720 Sicily. 20:46.720 --> 20:50.710 So Palermo is down there on the northwest coast of Sicily. 20:50.710 --> 20:55.010 And Sicily is a very interesting place in history. 20:55.009 --> 20:58.799 It was liberated in 1860, just before this time, 20:58.797 --> 21:03.307 after 2700 years of occupation by successive cultures. 21:03.309 --> 21:04.899 Okay? 21:04.900 --> 21:10.830 And the most recent one was Garibaldi, who came down with 21:10.832 --> 21:16.662 his Red Shirts in 1860 to free Sicily from the Bourbons, 21:16.659 --> 21:19.519 from the Spanish crown. 21:19.519 --> 21:20.449 Okay? 21:20.450 --> 21:26.560 And Cannizzaro came along and established this laboratory in 21:26.563 --> 21:27.603 Palermo. 21:27.598 --> 21:32.598 In 1860, he helped both Garibaldi, and the late 21:32.596 --> 21:35.526 Avogadro, and Gay-Lussac. 21:35.529 --> 21:38.459 Both of these were revolutionaries, 21:38.463 --> 21:41.143 although in different senses. 21:41.140 --> 21:44.270 Garibaldi was revolutionary politically, 21:44.269 --> 21:48.509 and Avogadro was revolutionary about knowing the atomic weight 21:48.508 --> 21:52.398 and molecular weight of compounds through gas density. 21:52.400 --> 21:56.050 But in his way, Cannizzaro was a cautious 21:56.048 --> 21:56.868 person. 21:56.868 --> 22:00.348 This is what he said when he spoke in London, 22:00.348 --> 22:02.958 in 1872, on chemistry teaching. 22:02.960 --> 22:06.730 He said: "Above all we should take care that the pupils 22:06.730 --> 22:10.180 do not form to themselves any mechanical or geometrical 22:10.180 --> 22:12.800 conception of the cause and effects of the 22:12.799 --> 22:15.989 quantivalence" (that is, the valence) "of 22:15.994 --> 22:16.894 atoms. 22:16.890 --> 22:20.940 They must frequently be reminded that chemical facts 22:20.935 --> 22:25.375 neither prove not disprove anything relating to size, 22:25.380 --> 22:28.930 form, continuity, distance, relative disposition, 22:28.930 --> 22:30.900 etcetera, etcetera, of the atoms." 22:30.900 --> 22:34.170 That is, don't use these arguments for this purpose of 22:34.173 --> 22:37.573 finding where things -- where atoms are in molecules. 22:37.568 --> 22:41.718 This is just a fancy that will appeal to students but isn't 22:41.715 --> 22:42.855 anything real. 22:42.858 --> 22:46.088 This was a very cautious, conservative point of view, 22:46.093 --> 22:49.143 but was shared by all the leaders in chemistry. 22:49.140 --> 22:52.480 "If we are sometimes obliged to speak of the relative 22:52.480 --> 22:54.710 position of atoms in the molecules, 22:54.710 --> 22:57.550 and even to give graphic representation of these 22:57.553 --> 23:00.063 positions, we must hasten to remark that 23:00.058 --> 23:03.258 these figures are nothing but artifices of the mind, 23:03.259 --> 23:07.549 intended to represent to the sight that which in reality we 23:07.548 --> 23:11.838 perceive only through the veil of transformations." 23:11.838 --> 23:15.238 (So it's only through reactions that you try to infer something 23:15.240 --> 23:17.380 about this; it's not something real.) 23:17.380 --> 23:20.700 "But that we do not really know what it is that corresponds 23:20.698 --> 23:23.578 to that which we call position, either in space, 23:23.580 --> 23:26.790 or in the mutual action of different portions of 23:26.788 --> 23:27.878 matter." 23:27.880 --> 23:30.400 But he was one of the leaders, right? 23:30.400 --> 23:33.120 The followers, the students were more -- 23:33.124 --> 23:34.944 didn't take this, right? 23:34.940 --> 23:37.410 So Koerner, who had just come down, 23:37.410 --> 23:40.800 for his health, and joined Cannizzaro -- 23:40.798 --> 23:46.288 in 1869 he came down, or he came down in 1866, 23:46.288 --> 23:51.408 I think, or seven -- he wrote a paper called Facts Serving to 23:51.407 --> 23:56.037 Determine Chemical Position in Aromatic Substances. 23:56.038 --> 23:56.428 Right? 23:56.434 --> 24:00.324 So a completely different point of view from what Cannizzaro 24:00.323 --> 24:02.963 advocated three years later -- right? 24:02.960 --> 24:04.980 -- to determine position. 24:04.980 --> 24:07.870 Cannizzaro, to be fair to him, was saying that you have to be 24:07.873 --> 24:10.673 different in what you teach and what you do research on. 24:10.670 --> 24:13.590 Teaching should be things you really know for sure, 24:13.586 --> 24:17.146 and research should be things where you're trying to push back 24:17.146 --> 24:18.136 the frontier. 24:18.140 --> 24:21.140 But anyhow, Koerner wrote in this paper, in 1869: 24:21.140 --> 24:25.120 "The dogma of the impossibility of determining the 24:25.121 --> 24:27.851 atomic constitution of substances, 24:27.848 --> 24:31.608 which until recently was advocated with such fervor by 24:31.613 --> 24:35.593 the most able chemists, is beginning to be abandoned 24:35.588 --> 24:38.538 and forgotten; and one can predict that the 24:38.540 --> 24:42.360 day is not far in the future when a sufficient collection of 24:42.357 --> 24:46.367 facts will permit determination of the internal architecture of 24:46.368 --> 24:47.338 molecules. 24:47.338 --> 24:50.398 A series of experiments directed toward such a goal is 24:50.402 --> 24:52.312 the object of this paper." 24:52.308 --> 24:52.598 Right? 24:52.598 --> 24:54.338 So that's what he was trying to do. 24:54.338 --> 24:58.268 If he came along fifty years later, what would he have used, 24:58.270 --> 25:01.270 to find the position of atoms in molecules? 25:01.269 --> 25:06.939 25:06.940 --> 25:08.200 X-ray, right? 25:08.200 --> 25:13.200 But he's using only reactions and counting isomers. 25:13.200 --> 25:13.590 Right? 25:13.588 --> 25:16.508 So only the properties of things and elemental 25:16.507 --> 25:17.477 composition. 25:17.480 --> 25:20.500 Okay, "facts will permit determination of the internal 25:20.497 --> 25:21.587 architecture." 25:21.589 --> 25:24.419 So this was a really new idea. 25:24.420 --> 25:26.960 And the paper, when it was published, 25:26.960 --> 25:31.300 was introduced and warmly endorsed by Cannizzaro, 25:31.298 --> 25:33.938 who went on to say, later, that you shouldn't be 25:33.940 --> 25:37.010 teaching this to students, but it is a good thing to study. 25:37.009 --> 25:37.369 Okay? 25:37.367 --> 25:41.527 So Koerner had -- there's a thing called the Koerner Proof, 25:41.526 --> 25:43.386 which indeed he proved. 25:43.390 --> 25:45.880 But it's not what he did in 1869. 25:45.880 --> 25:47.210 But this is very interesting. 25:47.210 --> 25:50.400 So you have, among disubstituted isomers, 25:50.397 --> 25:52.867 you have these possibilities. 25:52.869 --> 25:54.659 Okay? 25:54.660 --> 25:57.310 Now, how could you tell which is which? 25:57.309 --> 25:58.699 Suppose you had three bottles. 25:58.700 --> 26:00.480 One is black, one red, one blue, 26:00.483 --> 26:03.653 but they're not colored, they're just white crystals; 26:03.650 --> 26:05.710 or liquids maybe in this case. 26:05.710 --> 26:08.450 How could you tell which one is which? 26:08.450 --> 26:10.730 How could you put a label on the bottle? 26:10.730 --> 26:14.310 Well you could label them just with names, call them something 26:14.307 --> 26:17.647 like ortho, meta and para, which doesn't mean anything. 26:17.650 --> 26:19.460 Right? 26:19.460 --> 26:25.270 But how do you know what structure they have? 26:25.269 --> 26:28.649 Cory? 26:28.650 --> 26:29.920 Student: Differences in melting point. 26:29.920 --> 26:31.950 Prof: Oh, differences in melting point 26:31.946 --> 26:33.326 will show they're different. 26:33.328 --> 26:35.378 But how do you know which one will have the lowest melting 26:35.382 --> 26:35.672 point? 26:35.670 --> 26:37.920 You have to have some theory about melting point as a 26:37.921 --> 26:40.331 function of structure; which didn't exist. 26:40.329 --> 26:41.659 Or do you have such a theory? 26:41.660 --> 26:43.090 Student: Polarity. 26:43.088 --> 26:44.918 Prof: Polarity. 26:44.920 --> 26:49.830 But notice, to be -- yeah, one of them would be non-polar. 26:49.828 --> 26:52.028 But people weren't measuring polarity at this time. 26:52.029 --> 26:54.589 So that was out of the question. 26:54.589 --> 26:56.729 Okay, here's how Koerner did it. 26:56.730 --> 27:01.580 He added a third identical substituent and counted the 27:01.584 --> 27:02.504 isomers. 27:02.500 --> 27:04.300 So suppose you start with a black one, 27:04.298 --> 27:07.278 you add a third one, down to the right, 27:07.278 --> 27:11.868 or down at the bottom, or -- and that's all, 27:11.868 --> 27:14.808 because if you added down to the left it would be the same as 27:14.810 --> 27:17.510 down at the bottom, and if you added over to the 27:17.510 --> 27:20.060 left it would be the same as down to the -- 27:20.058 --> 27:22.398 over to the left would be the same as down to the right. 27:22.400 --> 27:24.020 Everybody see that? 27:24.019 --> 27:26.259 You can only get two isomers, starting from there. 27:26.259 --> 27:30.549 If you start from the red one, you can get either of those. 27:30.548 --> 27:37.478 Can you get anything else, from the red one? 27:37.480 --> 27:38.640 Andrew? 27:38.640 --> 27:39.940 Student: You get another one on the left. 27:39.940 --> 27:41.310 Prof: Yeah, down to the left will be a 27:41.310 --> 27:41.810 different one. 27:41.808 --> 27:43.198 So you'll get three from that one. 27:43.200 --> 27:45.780 And how about if you start with the blue one and put a third one 27:45.775 --> 27:45.975 in? 27:45.980 --> 27:49.590 27:49.589 --> 27:51.249 Maria, what do you say? 27:51.250 --> 27:54.850 If you start with the blue one and put a third blue substituent 27:54.848 --> 27:55.138 in? 27:55.140 --> 27:56.890 Student: You have the one in the middle. 27:56.890 --> 27:58.260 Prof: Speak up a little. 27:58.259 --> 28:01.199 Student: You have the one in the middle. 28:01.200 --> 28:04.210 Prof: Right, you can get the one in the 28:04.208 --> 28:04.808 middle. 28:04.808 --> 28:07.968 Student: And everything else is just -- 28:07.970 --> 28:09.120 Prof: Nothing else. 28:09.118 --> 28:09.658 Right? 28:09.663 --> 28:12.203 Only one possibility there. 28:12.200 --> 28:12.530 Okay? 28:12.529 --> 28:15.109 So one will give one, one will give two, 28:15.108 --> 28:18.028 one will give three; supposing that all the 28:18.025 --> 28:19.035 reactions work. 28:19.039 --> 28:20.119 Right? 28:20.118 --> 28:23.468 So it establishes the identity, not only of the disubstituted, 28:23.465 --> 28:25.985 but only also of the trisubstituted isomers. 28:25.990 --> 28:28.010 One comes from one of the original bottles, 28:28.005 --> 28:30.255 one comes from two, and one comes from three. 28:30.259 --> 28:31.599 So you know it. 28:31.599 --> 28:34.089 Pretty clever. 28:34.088 --> 28:39.688 And these were called -- these are called now ortho, 28:39.685 --> 28:41.225 meta and para. 28:41.230 --> 28:44.210 But those aren't the names that Koerner used. 28:44.210 --> 28:48.200 28:48.200 --> 28:50.430 Or more properly, they are the names that he 28:50.432 --> 28:52.772 used, but not to name the way we do it now. 28:52.769 --> 28:54.589 If anybody, he had the right to name them, 28:54.588 --> 28:57.538 but he didn't get it because he was off in left-field down in 28:57.538 --> 28:59.348 Palermo, and the people up in Germany, 28:59.351 --> 29:03.591 who were influential, were the ones that finally 29:03.588 --> 29:05.078 named them. 29:05.078 --> 29:09.878 But notice that this argument holds if benzene is a hexagon. 29:09.880 --> 29:14.120 But if it were a pentagonal pyramid, or some other geometric 29:14.119 --> 29:17.929 structure, then this argument wouldn't work at all. 29:17.930 --> 29:18.230 Right? 29:18.234 --> 29:21.394 So you have first to know that all the positions are equivalent 29:21.387 --> 29:23.337 in benzene; that it's not like some of 29:23.343 --> 29:25.643 those Dewar structures we were just looking at. 29:25.640 --> 29:27.230 So how can you do that? 29:27.230 --> 29:30.430 This was proven, in this paper in 1869, 29:30.432 --> 29:31.532 by Koerner. 29:31.528 --> 29:33.888 The paper was published in Palermo, 29:33.890 --> 29:37.050 in the Giornale di Scienze Naturale ed Economiche di 29:37.050 --> 29:39.270 Palermo, which is the Journal of 29:39.266 --> 29:41.626 Natural Science and Economics of Palermo. 29:41.630 --> 29:44.950 It's a beautiful big journal with big wide margins on the 29:44.951 --> 29:45.961 page and so on. 29:45.960 --> 29:47.930 But it had no circulation whatever. 29:47.930 --> 29:50.060 People in Germany, years later, 29:50.058 --> 29:53.608 were still trying to prove this, what he proved. 29:53.609 --> 29:55.299 Okay, now here's a question. 29:55.298 --> 29:58.358 Are the four valences of carbon equivalent; 29:58.358 --> 30:02.868 that is, are they all the same or might one of them be a thick 30:02.867 --> 30:06.117 bond, say, different from the other three? 30:06.118 --> 30:06.448 Right? 30:06.451 --> 30:09.671 Or, might it even be that two of the bonds are different; 30:09.670 --> 30:13.070 one's long, or one of them's curly. 30:13.069 --> 30:15.209 Might all four be different? 30:15.210 --> 30:18.710 Can you think of any evidence to say that the bonds in methane 30:18.712 --> 30:19.692 are equivalent? 30:19.690 --> 30:22.920 30:22.920 --> 30:24.440 How could you prove this? 30:24.440 --> 30:27.790 Alison, you got any idea? 30:27.789 --> 30:30.809 What technique is Koerner using? 30:30.809 --> 30:31.749 Pardon me? 30:31.750 --> 30:32.810 Student: To see if the isomers are -- 30:32.809 --> 30:33.989 Prof: Counting isomers. 30:33.990 --> 30:36.800 So what do you expect if you have four different bonds in 30:36.798 --> 30:37.248 carbon? 30:37.250 --> 30:39.170 Student: It matters where you substitute. 30:39.170 --> 30:39.790 Prof: Right. 30:39.787 --> 30:41.767 How many isomers would you get if there were four different? 30:41.769 --> 30:43.359 Student: One substitute. 30:43.358 --> 30:45.808 Prof: You could have a chlorine on the fat bond, 30:45.813 --> 30:47.723 the long bond, the curly bond or the normal 30:47.721 --> 30:49.661 bond; there'd be four isomers, 30:49.663 --> 30:53.373 if you could make them all, and they didn't interconvert. 30:53.369 --> 30:54.269 Right? 30:54.269 --> 30:58.389 So there's only one methyl chloride. 30:58.390 --> 31:00.620 Nobody's found a second methyl chloride. 31:00.618 --> 31:06.148 So does that prove that they're all equivalent? 31:06.150 --> 31:07.280 Yeah? 31:07.279 --> 31:08.519 Pardon me? 31:08.519 --> 31:09.569 Yeah? 31:09.568 --> 31:10.818 Student: Not on its own. 31:10.816 --> 31:13.306 But they can attach more than one chlorine to all the bonds. 31:13.308 --> 31:16.598 So they know that they all sort of -- they will work. 31:16.598 --> 31:17.718 Prof: Okay. 31:17.722 --> 31:21.342 That doesn't prove it alone, because maybe there's only one 31:21.344 --> 31:23.034 that can be substituted. 31:23.029 --> 31:23.889 Right? 31:23.890 --> 31:26.550 That is, of the one -- if it had the structure on the right, 31:26.545 --> 31:29.015 with four different bonds, maybe you could make only one 31:29.019 --> 31:30.099 monosubstituted one. 31:30.098 --> 31:33.888 How many disubstituted ones could you make then? 31:33.890 --> 31:35.430 Student: The one. 31:35.430 --> 31:37.490 Prof: If the first one went in one place, 31:37.494 --> 31:39.214 the second one could go any of three. 31:39.210 --> 31:42.490 So you'd still say get three disubstituted. 31:42.490 --> 31:45.200 Unless you could only make one of those. 31:45.200 --> 31:46.770 Then there would only be two. 31:46.769 --> 31:50.629 So it doesn't really prove it, the way a mathematician would 31:50.627 --> 31:53.437 like things proven, but it's a plausibility, 31:53.439 --> 31:54.289 at least. 31:54.289 --> 31:55.389 Okay? 31:55.390 --> 32:00.290 But it turns out that -- so the evidence is there's only one 32:00.290 --> 32:03.780 isomer known, but it's not really proof. 32:03.778 --> 32:06.538 Now Koerner, in order to make a real proof, 32:06.535 --> 32:10.265 had to make some assumptions, and these he stated in 1867, 32:10.273 --> 32:13.623 two years before the paper we're talking about. 32:13.618 --> 32:16.278 And the first is direct replacement. 32:16.278 --> 32:18.888 And he wrote: "If one grants that in 32:18.887 --> 32:22.867 simple transformation the new substituent assumes the position 32:22.865 --> 32:25.665 of the element displaced…." 32:25.670 --> 32:28.810 So you can take a substituent off and put a new one there, 32:28.808 --> 32:32.168 but it will go in the same place that the old one came off. 32:32.170 --> 32:34.150 Everything doesn't rearrange. 32:34.150 --> 32:37.520 You need that in order to make arguments like he wants to make. 32:37.519 --> 32:38.339 Right? 32:38.339 --> 32:40.219 And in fact that's often true. 32:40.220 --> 32:42.490 It's certainly logically parsimonious. 32:42.490 --> 32:44.410 It's the simplest assumption you can make, 32:44.409 --> 32:45.579 and it usually is true. 32:45.578 --> 32:48.688 But there are rearrangements that do sometimes occur, 32:48.693 --> 32:50.973 and we'll talk about those later on. 32:50.970 --> 32:54.200 But anyhow, for his argument you have to assume direct 32:54.204 --> 32:55.064 replacement. 32:55.058 --> 32:58.188 And the second assumption is experimental distinguishability, 32:58.189 --> 32:59.909 which we've been talking about. 32:59.910 --> 33:02.160 "Most of the demonstrations are based on 33:02.159 --> 33:05.229 establishing the identity or difference of several substances 33:05.227 --> 33:07.877 of the same composition, but obtained by different 33:07.882 --> 33:08.682 reactions." 33:08.680 --> 33:11.370 So you have to be confident that you can tell when things 33:11.371 --> 33:13.391 are the same and when they're different. 33:13.390 --> 33:14.960 We just were talking about that. 33:14.960 --> 33:17.600 But Koerner was in an especially good position to do 33:17.596 --> 33:20.126 this, because he was really skilled in the lab. 33:20.130 --> 33:24.130 In fact, he got a Silver Medal at a Paris exposition, 33:24.130 --> 33:26.030 one of these international expositions, 33:26.028 --> 33:29.458 for his collection of beautiful crystals that he had lovingly 33:29.462 --> 33:31.262 prepared, and they had different shapes 33:31.259 --> 33:31.679 and so on. 33:31.680 --> 33:33.790 That's one way you can tell things apart. 33:33.788 --> 33:36.208 And, in fact, this bottle here, 33:36.211 --> 33:40.571 says up at the top -- I don't think you can read it. 33:40.568 --> 33:44.088 But it says, Laboratorio di Chimica 33:44.092 --> 33:47.712 Organica, and it says Acido, 33:47.709 --> 33:50.279 Ac., Salicilico. 33:50.279 --> 33:51.969 So what is it? 33:51.970 --> 33:53.370 Salicylic Acid. 33:53.368 --> 33:57.308 This is Koerner's sample -- right? 33:57.309 --> 33:58.969 -- of salicylic acid. 33:58.970 --> 34:03.270 And here are his beautiful crystals of 34:03.269 --> 34:06.639 2,6-dinitro-3-bromotoluene. 34:06.640 --> 34:08.430 You can't see them so well here. 34:08.429 --> 34:11.329 Well you can see that they're still beautiful crystals, 34:11.329 --> 34:11.759 right? 34:11.760 --> 34:14.910 So those are some of his prize crystals. 34:14.909 --> 34:19.829 And here you can -- so crystals are the best way to tell. 34:19.829 --> 34:23.189 And there are pictures of those things that were Koerner's. 34:23.190 --> 34:27.530 Okay, now here's his proof, based on those assumptions. 34:27.530 --> 34:32.590 Okay, so there are three known isomers of 34:32.594 --> 34:35.764 hydroxycarboxylbenzene. 34:35.760 --> 34:37.050 So you don't know anything about the structure. 34:37.050 --> 34:39.430 All you know is you is you have C_6H_4. 34:39.429 --> 34:42.969 You originally had C_6H_6, but one of the H's has been 34:42.974 --> 34:45.654 replaced by OH, and another H by COOH. 34:45.650 --> 34:49.000 And the names of these things are salicylic acid, 34:48.998 --> 34:52.068 which I just showed you, hydroxybenzoic acid, 34:52.067 --> 34:54.297 and parahydroxybenzoic acid. 34:54.300 --> 34:56.880 So the names don't mean anything, but those are just 34:56.880 --> 34:58.400 what the bottles are called. 34:58.400 --> 34:59.450 Right? 34:59.449 --> 35:03.639 Now, you want to use the existence of at least three. 35:03.639 --> 35:07.189 You don't -- there might be eighteen, for all you know, 35:07.188 --> 35:08.568 disubstituted ones. 35:08.570 --> 35:09.600 Right? 35:09.599 --> 35:12.279 But you know there are at least these three, and you can do 35:12.280 --> 35:13.390 experiments with them. 35:13.389 --> 35:15.069 So these are the experiments. 35:15.070 --> 35:19.110 First you treat it with HCl and heat it up -- this was done by 35:19.108 --> 35:21.888 Graebe in 1866 -- and it loses the COOH. 35:21.889 --> 35:25.299 Remember, we talked about how you could take benzoic acid, 35:25.297 --> 35:27.507 take the COOH off and have benzene. 35:27.510 --> 35:29.280 Here it's done, take the COOH off, 35:29.278 --> 35:31.208 but you're left with still the OH. 35:31.210 --> 35:33.550 And that compound, as we mentioned before, 35:33.547 --> 35:34.627 is called phenol. 35:34.630 --> 35:35.520 Right? 35:35.518 --> 35:39.518 But you can do the same trick with parahydroxybenzoic acid, 35:39.516 --> 35:43.026 and you get the same phenol, not a different one. 35:43.030 --> 35:45.210 What does that tell you? 35:45.210 --> 35:48.990 It tells you that the difference between salicylic 35:48.992 --> 35:53.472 acid and parahydroxybenzoic acid is not where the OH is. 35:53.469 --> 35:53.819 Right? 35:53.824 --> 35:57.264 They have to have the same position of the OH because -- or 35:57.255 --> 36:00.685 at least equivalent ones -- because you get the same phenol 36:00.686 --> 36:01.216 out. 36:01.219 --> 36:04.929 And it was found also by Graebe that you could convert 36:04.929 --> 36:09.199 hydroxybenzoic acid to methyl anisate -- that's the OH becomes 36:09.199 --> 36:11.859 OCH_3; and so same for the acid. 36:11.860 --> 36:15.840 And then you can convert it to anisic acid, taking the CH_3 off 36:15.836 --> 36:19.026 on the acid group; from the ester, that is to say. 36:19.030 --> 36:23.900 And you can convert phenol by way of bromoanisole -- Koerner, 36:23.896 --> 36:28.106 I believe, did this -- and then with sodium and CO_2, 36:28.114 --> 36:30.714 to get the same anisic acid. 36:30.710 --> 36:31.510 Right? 36:31.510 --> 36:35.950 So the OH position has to be the same in hydroxybenzoic acid 36:35.945 --> 36:39.025 as it was in salicylic and parahydroxy. 36:39.030 --> 36:39.310 Right? 36:39.311 --> 36:41.661 So the conclusion is the difference among the three 36:41.663 --> 36:45.073 isomers that are known -- salicylic, hydroxybenzoic acid, 36:45.068 --> 36:48.568 parahydroxybenzoic -- is not where the OH is, 36:48.568 --> 36:52.518 since the O survives in identical compounds. 36:52.518 --> 36:55.868 So, for example, it couldn't be like these three 36:55.865 --> 36:58.425 isomers of Dewar's structure here. 36:58.429 --> 37:01.779 Suppose that were one of the acids, and that were another 37:01.782 --> 37:03.642 one, and that were the third. 37:03.639 --> 37:06.889 Then when you took the COOH off, you'd have three different 37:06.889 --> 37:07.729 OH compounds. 37:07.730 --> 37:09.680 Everybody with me? 37:09.679 --> 37:11.069 You see that? 37:11.070 --> 37:12.630 So the difference among these three, 37:12.630 --> 37:14.570 whatever it is that makes them different, 37:14.570 --> 37:18.520 can't be where the OH is, because you can remove the COOH 37:18.523 --> 37:20.433 and they're all the same. 37:20.429 --> 37:22.909 Okay, that's the first step. 37:22.909 --> 37:29.069 And the conclusion is the sites occupied by OH are either 37:29.070 --> 37:32.040 identical, or equivalent. 37:32.039 --> 37:33.069 Here's what's equivalent. 37:33.070 --> 37:34.320 So suppose they could be this. 37:34.320 --> 37:35.910 There's OH, COOH. 37:35.909 --> 37:37.839 See did I? Yeah here. 37:37.840 --> 37:41.500 So you could have that OH, that OH and that -- no, 37:41.501 --> 37:44.911 there's; okay, sorry I'm messing this up. 37:44.909 --> 37:48.889 There's one, one, one, two, 37:48.893 --> 37:50.123 three. 37:50.119 --> 37:52.869 The OHs in those are not the same position -- one's the top 37:52.871 --> 37:55.571 right, the other's the top left -- but they're equivalent, 37:55.574 --> 37:56.054 right? 37:56.050 --> 37:58.230 Once you got it, you could flop if over and 37:58.231 --> 38:00.001 they're the same as one another. 38:00.000 --> 38:03.600 Okay, so we know at least that much. 38:03.599 --> 38:07.239 So let's call the OH position, which is either the same or 38:07.242 --> 38:09.482 exactly equivalent, call it ω, 38:09.481 --> 38:10.761 just for a name. 38:10.760 --> 38:13.740 So OH is in the position of Hω; 38:13.739 --> 38:16.419 that we know, in all three compounds. 38:16.420 --> 38:18.090 Can you guess what you do next? 38:18.090 --> 38:25.550 38:25.550 --> 38:27.260 Next -- yeah? 38:27.260 --> 38:30.980 Student: Probably take the OH off and leave the COOH 38:30.983 --> 38:31.303 on. 38:31.300 --> 38:32.460 Prof: Ah! 38:32.463 --> 38:35.083 Take the OH off and leave the COOH. 38:35.079 --> 38:35.659 Right? 38:35.659 --> 38:37.169 And that's possible too. 38:37.170 --> 38:39.550 You can treat it with phosphorus pentachloride, 38:39.550 --> 38:44.750 which converts OH to Cl, and then with sodium and water, 38:44.750 --> 38:47.760 which takes the chlorine off and leaves hydrogen. 38:47.760 --> 38:49.710 So you get benzoic acid. 38:49.710 --> 38:53.110 And what do you do next? 38:53.110 --> 38:55.440 Do it to one of the other compounds, right? 38:55.440 --> 38:58.290 There, and you get the same benzoic acid. 38:58.289 --> 39:01.679 Or you do it here -- and I think Koerner is the guy who did 39:01.675 --> 39:04.825 that, although I can't -- haven't found a paper to that 39:04.827 --> 39:05.467 effect. 39:05.469 --> 39:08.489 But anyhow, he says that you get the same benzoic acid. 39:08.489 --> 39:09.099 So what does that prove? 39:09.099 --> 39:12.909 39:12.909 --> 39:16.679 So the COOH positions are not fundamentally different in the 39:16.679 --> 39:17.829 three compounds. 39:17.829 --> 39:21.639 So the OH positions are equivalent, and also the COOH 39:21.641 --> 39:23.621 positions are equivalent. 39:23.619 --> 39:26.359 How can they then be different, the three compounds? 39:26.360 --> 39:29.550 Because they're clearly different. 39:29.550 --> 39:32.750 It must be their relative positions that are different. 39:32.750 --> 39:33.960 Okay? 39:33.960 --> 39:38.510 The three isomers do not differ because of the absolute position 39:38.509 --> 39:39.519 of the COOH. 39:39.518 --> 39:45.388 So the three sites of COOH are equivalent, and we can name them 39:45.393 --> 39:46.913 x and y and z. 39:46.909 --> 39:48.989 None of them can be exactly the same, 39:48.989 --> 39:52.029 because if they were exactly the same then those 39:52.034 --> 39:54.844 hydroxybenzoic acids, two of them at least, 39:54.844 --> 39:58.094 would've been the same, if the COOHs -- because we know 39:58.090 --> 39:59.390 the OHs were the same. 39:59.389 --> 40:00.219 Okay? 40:00.219 --> 40:03.429 So, for example, it could be this way in Dewar's 40:03.427 --> 40:04.107 benzene. 40:04.110 --> 40:08.020 You could have that position for x, that for y, 40:08.023 --> 40:09.133 that for z. 40:09.130 --> 40:13.120 And they're all different with respect to ω. 40:13.119 --> 40:16.549 Okay? 40:16.550 --> 40:18.450 The ω's will all be the same. 40:18.449 --> 40:23.189 So that would be a possible structure, according to this. 40:23.190 --> 40:28.220 In this particular case, ω would be the same as x, 40:28.224 --> 40:33.634 y and z, as a site for a single substituent, if it were this 40:33.628 --> 40:34.908 structure. 40:34.909 --> 40:38.659 So Arppe, a chemist, had made a compound which he 40:38.661 --> 40:42.931 called nitroaniline, which was benzene that had NH_2 40:42.927 --> 40:45.287 and NO_2 in it, and it was known by 40:45.291 --> 40:49.821 transformations, that the NH_2 was ω, 40:49.820 --> 40:52.800 that position OHω, and the NO_2_ was in 40:52.798 --> 40:55.078 y; that is, you could interconvert 40:55.079 --> 40:58.799 groups and make it into one of those known hydroxybenzoic 40:58.800 --> 40:59.400 acids. 40:59.400 --> 41:01.950 So you knew it was ω and y. 41:01.949 --> 41:03.349 Okay? 41:03.349 --> 41:08.509 Now, you do a transfer -- and it's related to that particular 41:08.514 --> 41:10.414 hydroxybenzoic acid. 41:10.409 --> 41:11.899 Okay? 41:11.900 --> 41:15.400 Now, you replace the NH_2 by Br -- and we'll talk about these 41:15.398 --> 41:18.138 next semester, what particular reactions did 41:18.144 --> 41:21.474 that -- and then you change NO_2 to 41:21.472 --> 41:26.632 NH_2, and then you replace the NH_2 by chlorine. 41:26.630 --> 41:29.680 So now you've got benzene with bromine; 41:29.679 --> 41:33.069 that must be in the ω position, because it replaced 41:33.070 --> 41:34.100 the first NH_2. 41:34.099 --> 41:38.059 And then chlorine is in y because it substituted for the 41:38.059 --> 41:42.089 second NH_2, which came from the NO_2, which was in y. 41:42.090 --> 41:44.280 Okay? 41:44.280 --> 41:46.050 So it's ω and y. 41:46.050 --> 41:47.130 Can you see what he's going to do next? 41:47.130 --> 41:55.400 41:55.400 --> 42:00.400 He replaces the NH_2 by Cl, and then changes NO_2 to NH_2, 42:00.403 --> 42:02.953 and then replaces it by Br. 42:02.949 --> 42:04.149 Why? 42:04.150 --> 42:07.590 42:07.590 --> 42:10.890 So now he's prepared a compound which clearly has chlorine in 42:10.891 --> 42:13.591 the position ω and bromine in position y. 42:13.590 --> 42:17.370 42:17.369 --> 42:21.449 I see pursing of brows and so on. 42:21.449 --> 42:22.169 Is everybody clear? 42:22.170 --> 42:26.350 So he's prepared two -- from the same compound he's prepared 42:26.351 --> 42:27.841 a bromide chloride. 42:27.840 --> 42:28.540 Right? 42:28.539 --> 42:31.869 One of them is ω bromide y chloride, 42:31.867 --> 42:34.707 and the other has them exchanged. 42:34.710 --> 42:37.040 And what do you think he observed? 42:37.039 --> 42:38.529 They're the same. 42:38.530 --> 42:42.240 42:42.239 --> 42:43.879 What does that show? 42:43.880 --> 42:46.690 Student: >. 42:46.690 --> 42:49.360 Prof: It shows that ω is the same as y, 42:49.360 --> 42:51.450 because otherwise these would be different when you put 42:51.445 --> 42:53.765 different atoms in them; assuming you have the 42:53.768 --> 42:57.408 experimental technique to tell when things are different. 42:57.409 --> 42:58.129 Okay? 42:58.130 --> 43:00.400 So now -- so it couldn't be, for example, 43:00.400 --> 43:04.310 a pentagonal pyramid, which one had bromine in y, 43:04.309 --> 43:08.049 and the other had chlorine -- chlorine in y, 43:08.050 --> 43:10.290 the other had chlorine and ω and bromine in y. 43:10.289 --> 43:13.019 It couldn't be that, those would be different. 43:13.019 --> 43:14.769 Okay? 43:14.768 --> 43:20.038 So there must be at least four equivalent substituted 43:20.036 --> 43:23.376 positions: ω, y, x and z. 43:23.380 --> 43:23.950 Okay? 43:23.949 --> 43:27.579 And that would be consistent with that structure we showed 43:27.579 --> 43:28.789 before, this one. 43:28.789 --> 43:30.919 So it could be that. 43:30.920 --> 43:34.600 It doesn't have to be a hexagon. 43:34.599 --> 43:36.419 Now, here's the next step. 43:36.420 --> 43:40.220 So you start with a compound that's known to be in the meta 43:40.219 --> 43:40.809 series. 43:40.809 --> 43:46.289 It's got OH in ω, and nitro, NO_2 -- he wrote 43:46.293 --> 43:48.053 AzO_2 -- in x. 43:48.050 --> 43:52.270 And you have another one that has again OH in the position 43:52.271 --> 43:55.681 ω, but bromine in x, instead of nitro. 43:55.679 --> 43:59.109 And now you start doing substitutions. 43:59.110 --> 44:00.780 Remember, he used "meta" 44:00.775 --> 44:02.435 differently from the way we do. 44:02.440 --> 44:06.020 Okay, so first he put in a bromine someplace, 44:06.016 --> 44:08.776 and then a nitro someplace, and got 44:08.780 --> 44:11.220 bromonitrometanitrophenol. 44:11.219 --> 44:13.049 Okay, he added a bromo and a nitro group. 44:13.050 --> 44:15.950 So you know that's the benzene core, with H_2, 44:15.954 --> 44:19.124 with a nitro someplace, with a bromo someplace. 44:19.119 --> 44:20.829 Those are the ones you just put in. 44:20.829 --> 44:23.419 But the others are still where they were. 44:23.420 --> 44:28.890 OH is in ω and nitro is in x position. 44:28.889 --> 44:32.859 And now you go to the other compound and put in two nitro 44:32.860 --> 44:33.500 groups. 44:33.500 --> 44:36.970 So you don't know where those two nitro groups are, 44:36.971 --> 44:40.231 but you know ω 's -- that OH is in ω 44:40.233 --> 44:41.903 and bromine is in x. 44:41.900 --> 44:44.590 Everybody see what you've done now? 44:44.590 --> 44:48.260 And you know what he observed? 44:48.260 --> 44:51.730 Those two compounds are identical. 44:51.730 --> 44:53.590 Can you see what conclusion you get from that? 44:53.590 --> 44:58.350 44:58.349 --> 45:01.409 These are identical, right? 45:01.409 --> 45:07.039 But one of them has bromine in x, and the other has nitro in x. 45:07.039 --> 45:07.999 How can they be identical? 45:08.000 --> 45:12.840 45:12.840 --> 45:17.110 There must be a second x position that's -- there must be 45:17.112 --> 45:20.032 two positions that are equivalent, right? 45:20.030 --> 45:23.620 Now, could any of those positions be ones we already 45:23.617 --> 45:24.107 know? 45:24.110 --> 45:27.370 Could it be ω? 45:27.369 --> 45:30.699 We already know ω, x, y and z are the same, 45:30.695 --> 45:31.245 right? 45:31.250 --> 45:34.950 Could this new x be one of those? 45:34.949 --> 45:36.769 Could it be ω? 45:36.768 --> 45:40.258 No, because we already got ω, so it can't be ω. 45:40.260 --> 45:43.320 Could it be y or z? 45:43.320 --> 45:46.040 No, because those would've started from a different 45:46.036 --> 45:48.696 compound in the first place, if it were y or z. 45:48.699 --> 45:49.129 Right? 45:49.125 --> 45:51.105 You know that this is in x. 45:51.110 --> 45:52.490 It's not y, not z. 45:52.489 --> 45:53.069 Right? 45:53.070 --> 45:56.550 So there must be a second x, right? 45:56.550 --> 45:59.630 We'll call it x'. 45:59.630 --> 46:02.280 There must be two positions, x and x'. 46:02.280 --> 46:05.080 They're not equivalent to x, or y. 46:05.079 --> 46:10.029 They're not the same as x or y or z or ω. 46:10.030 --> 46:12.230 It's a new one. 46:12.230 --> 46:13.750 Okay? 46:13.750 --> 46:15.550 So that's what they are. 46:15.550 --> 46:19.090 So there must be at least five equivalent positions. 46:19.090 --> 46:23.920 Now that would be consistent with that pentagonal pyramid, 46:23.920 --> 46:24.600 right? 46:24.599 --> 46:27.459 All the five around the base of it are at five equivalent 46:27.456 --> 46:28.066 positions. 46:28.070 --> 46:33.780 But you can't get three different disubstituted ones 46:33.782 --> 46:36.472 among those positions. 46:36.469 --> 46:39.889 Right? So it couldn't be that. 46:39.889 --> 46:43.069 So none of Dewar's models work with this, although the perfect 46:43.068 --> 46:44.948 hexagon will work; a perfect one, 46:44.949 --> 46:47.409 not alternating single and double bonds. 46:47.409 --> 46:51.859 And the equilateral triangular prism, the Ladenburg benzene 46:51.856 --> 46:53.156 will also work. 46:53.159 --> 46:55.899 So as I said, it would work with either of 46:55.902 --> 46:59.982 those, except that the one on the right doesn't give the right 46:59.981 --> 47:02.391 number of disubstituted isomers. 47:02.389 --> 47:04.819 Now Koerner's own argument, that the sixth position is 47:04.818 --> 47:07.418 equivalent, was faulty, because it hinged, 47:07.416 --> 47:10.656 in a subtle way, on assuming that the benzene 47:10.664 --> 47:13.634 was hexagonal before you proved it was. 47:13.630 --> 47:15.730 It wasn't obvious, but it's true if you look at it 47:15.733 --> 47:16.253 carefully. 47:16.250 --> 47:18.640 But it is possible, using group theory, 47:18.641 --> 47:22.041 to construct a logically rigorous argument on the basis 47:22.041 --> 47:23.301 of his evidence. 47:23.300 --> 47:26.600 His last step of his argument was wrong but his evidence was 47:26.601 --> 47:27.891 adequate to prove it. 47:27.889 --> 47:30.439 So he was right in his intuition that this proved it, 47:30.443 --> 47:32.703 and he was right in his conclusion that all the 47:32.704 --> 47:34.134 positions are equivalent. 47:34.130 --> 47:37.720 So he deserves enormous credit for formulating the logic of the 47:37.715 --> 47:40.825 first true structural proof; not just one of these 47:40.827 --> 47:43.517 plausibility things, like there's only one 47:43.516 --> 47:46.136 monosubstituted methane -- chloromethane, 47:46.141 --> 47:49.291 therefore all the positions are equivalent. 47:49.289 --> 47:50.849 Right? That's just plausibility. 47:50.849 --> 47:54.509 But this is a real rigorous proof. 47:54.510 --> 48:02.090 Now how many isomers do you think there are of C_2H_4Br_2? 48:02.090 --> 48:02.990 Think about it. 48:02.989 --> 48:06.259 Ethane with two bromines, how many isomers? 48:06.260 --> 48:07.980 Student: Two. 48:07.980 --> 48:10.010 Prof: Pardon me? 48:10.014 --> 48:11.434 Somebody guess. 48:11.429 --> 48:13.079 Student: Two. 48:13.079 --> 48:14.199 Prof: John? 48:14.199 --> 48:15.169 Student: Three. 48:15.170 --> 48:17.400 Prof: And how would you get three? 48:17.400 --> 48:21.380 Student: Because there's a double bond on the -- 48:21.380 --> 48:23.060 Prof: No double bond. 48:23.059 --> 48:24.299 There's six things on it. 48:24.300 --> 48:25.230 So forget that one. 48:25.230 --> 48:25.920 Prof: Yeah. 48:25.922 --> 48:27.502 If it were a double bond you'd be right. 48:27.500 --> 48:29.570 But there are no double bonds. 48:29.570 --> 48:30.450 Corey? 48:30.449 --> 48:31.389 Student: Two. 48:31.389 --> 48:33.159 Prof: And what would you call them? 48:33.159 --> 48:35.359 How would you distinguish them, or describe them? 48:35.360 --> 48:38.810 Student: One would have one bromine on each carbon and 48:38.809 --> 48:41.299 one would have two bromines on one carbon. 48:41.300 --> 48:42.190 Prof: Good. 48:42.193 --> 48:45.223 So you could have two bromines on one carbon or one bromine on 48:45.224 --> 48:45.974 each carbon. 48:45.969 --> 48:47.699 So there should be two isomers. 48:47.699 --> 48:50.559 Now, in that same journal, the same volume of the same 48:50.556 --> 48:52.796 journal, in 1869, in Palermo, 48:56.996 --> 49:00.296 dibromoethane, supposing they actually exist, 49:00.304 --> 49:03.954 can easily be explained without assuming any difference among 49:03.954 --> 49:05.844 the four valences of carbon. 49:05.840 --> 49:09.430 You don't need curly bonds, long bonds and stuff like that. 49:09.429 --> 49:12.489 And here's how he explained it, with this picture. 49:12.489 --> 49:12.929 Right? 49:12.925 --> 49:17.055 So both, on the leftmost they have two on the same atom. 49:17.059 --> 49:19.689 The other two have one on each atom. 49:19.690 --> 49:23.450 And how are they different -- one on each carbon atom -- but 49:23.451 --> 49:24.791 how do they differ? 49:24.789 --> 49:29.339 In the phase of rotation, around the carbon-carbon single 49:29.340 --> 49:29.910 bond. 49:29.909 --> 49:30.929 Right? 49:30.929 --> 49:35.129 And at the bottom he says -- or actually notice there's a little 49:35.132 --> 49:37.002 black thing in the middle. 49:37.000 --> 49:37.990 What do you think it is? 49:37.989 --> 49:43.069 49:43.070 --> 49:44.640 Dana, what do you think? 49:44.639 --> 49:46.379 Student: Some way to join the -- 49:46.380 --> 49:48.240 Prof: Right, it's a case of rubber tubing. 49:48.239 --> 49:51.759 Because this is an artist's picture of an actual model made 49:51.760 --> 49:53.340 out of sticks and balls. 49:53.340 --> 49:54.510 Right? 49:54.510 --> 49:57.750 And sure, those things aren't super-imposable. 49:57.750 --> 49:58.570 Right? 49:58.570 --> 50:02.570 But he says at the bottom: "It is superfluous to say 50:02.567 --> 50:06.347 that this is only a way of representing the facts, 50:06.349 --> 50:08.789 and that all these ideas need to be tested 50:08.789 --> 50:10.159 experimentally." 50:10.159 --> 50:14.469 So we'll see next time what kind of reception this received. 50:14.469 --> 50:19.999